Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Dem2k]

What are people's thoughts, on the UK getting involved? - we're sending ships and planes to help Israel..

I'm not sure it sits well with me.

I feel more like we should leave that **** hole part of the world alone and stay the hell away..

We have an interest in securing some type of resolution in the region. I know what they don't want, Even if Israel's goal of irridicating Hamas is acheived they are the devil we know. If something worse takes it place on it's remains, and spills over to Eygpt and more specfically effects the security of the Suez then I reckon things will escalate big time.

No sitting on the fence for us.

 

[Drukk]

I see. And what about the thousands of rockets launched at Israel? Were they meant to turn the other cheek?

Indiscrimate revenge bombing of innocent families on the off chance of catching some Hamas is okay in your book then? Not sure you would be following that same thought pattern if you happened to be out there right now.

 

[GGizmo]

I think whatever is going to happen needs to happen tomorrow.

Because this delay is acting as cover for Israel constantly bombing Gaza, with no end in sight until this operation happens.

Dragging this on isn't helping anyone on either side.

 

[Uther]

I get that, but I think that's part of the point I'm making - in reality we're not really going to generate any impact, but we are painting a target on our backs by getting involved..,.

The 2017 terror attacks stick in my memory..



I get the US getting involved, they want to to use Israel to project their power over that continent, and Israel is full of yanks anyway...

But the UK.... I just don't like the idea of us getting involved.

Terror attacks will happen now regardless. Several Brits were killed last Saturday too by Hamas,the UK was never just going to stand by and do nothing.

 

[Felon]

The cynic in me thinks Sunak see's it as a vote winner and also provides him with a bit more politiking to say that based on Labours antisemitism connections they would never have done this and then paves the way for them to roll out an election campaign that revolves around saying vote for Labour = vote for Islamic Terror.

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The UK has barely got a military it can hold together for its own needs let alone cosplaying as world police.

I just feel that each time we get involved with these mental islamic melting pots of complete dog ****, we just end up with a huge target painted on our backs and we end up paying for it with terror attacks later down the line, and I don't ever see or understand the gain to us in any of it.

Terror attacks will happen now regardless. Several Brits were killed last Saturday too by Hamas,the UK was never just going to stand by and do nothing.

You're probably right, I guess I'm just tired of watching us get involved - gain nothing, other than misery.

 

[Drukk]

We have an interest in securing some type of resolution in the region. I know what they don't want, Even if Israel's goal of irridicating Hamas is acheived they are the devil we know. If something worse takes it place on it's remains, and spills over to Eygpt and more specfically effects the security of the Suez then I reckon things will escalate big time.

No sitting on the fence for us.

Not sure what our ships are going to do when there's a US carrier task force already there really. I see we are offering humanitarian aid to Israel while they deprive innocent people of just the basics to survive. Just shocking how we've completely ignored the hell they are putting those hundreds of thousand innocent people through for their revenge. How anyone can support Israel with how they are handling this now is just beyond me.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

What are people's thoughts, on the UK getting involved? - we're sending ships and planes to help Israel..

I'm not sure it sits well with me.

I feel more like we should leave that **** hole part of the world alone and stay the hell away..

Help them how, exactly? Its nothing more than Sunak puffing up his chest trying to look important, he's a blowhard theres nothing meaningful in anything he's doing its simply gesture politics.

 

[Felon]

How anyone can support Israel with how they are handling this now is just beyond me.

To me, both sides are like two groups of football supporters, having a tear up, over and over and over again - neither side has any real moral highground.

For me - there's no way you can really take a side and successfully argue that the side you pick, is the right one.

 

[Thekwango]

How anyone can support Israel with how they are handling this now is just beyond me.

I think they are still entitled to humanitarian aid and support. Refusing israel support would be doing the same to the innocent Jewish people who just want live their lives and not be bombed or stabbed or shot as is happening to the Palestinians, thanks to Hamas.

 

[Felon]

Help them how, exactly? Its nothing more than Sunak puffing up his chest trying to look important, he's a blowhard theres nothing meaningful in anything he's doing its simply gesture politics.

Well exactly, that's the problem - we're not going to do much in terms of positive impact, but we're getting involved, and that makes us a target for terror attacks, like we need a repeat of 2017..

 

[wildman]

Well exactly, that's the problem - we're not going to do much in terms of positive impact, but we're getting involved, and that makes us a target for terror attacks, like we need a repeat of 2017..

I'll be swerving the tube for a while me thinks.

 

[rumple9]

What are people's thoughts, on the UK getting involved? - we're sending ships and planes to help Israel..

I'm not sure it sits well with me.

I feel more like we should leave that **** hole part of the world alone and stay the hell away..

Election coming up and there's a lot of Jewish votes to be had, which Labour have been taking back. I suspect things would be different if we had a very large Palestinian population here.

 

[Noughtboy]

... you can appreciate the effort it must have took to create them.

And time and money. @Dem2k Imagine if that had all been expended in the pursuit of what they were originally elected to go... Govern for the good of the people.

It was for those reasons that certain things were originally blockaded. However, Hamas always seemed to find ways of getting weapons into Gaza but not food or medicine...well not for the use of the general population anyway.

 

[StriderX]

Election coming up and there's a lot of Jewish votes to be had, which Labour have been taking back. I suspect things would be different if we had a very large Palestinian population here.

There's not a lot of that vote at all, it affects like three seats at most.

Besides Israel being an ally I think it's partly about what the US wants.

 

[arknor]

The cynic in me thinks Sunak see's it as a vote winner and also provides him with a bit more politiking to say that based on Labours antisemitism connections they would never have done this and then paves the way for them to roll out an election campaign that revolves around saying vote for Labour = vote for Islamic Terror.

better than a vote for tories is a vote for high taxes, incompetence and funding foreign countries

No money for the NHS, No money for the cost of living crisis... a war comes along hey look take all these billions ukraine and take all our military equipment we can't replace whilst your at it
shame voters have such short memories

 

[Twinz]

Yes. Yes you have. You’re one liners ‘but we’re told israel won’t let anything in’ is precisely what you’re doing. You’re trying to imply israel haven’t controlled or tired to control the food and water going into Gaza.

You claimed that I was "suggesting that Israel have no control over what goes in to Gaza".

I have not.

I have said:
"Now that Hamas has launched thousands of rockets into Israel, from Gaza, you may understand why Israel wanted to check boxes labeled "Food for innocent children, TOTALLY NOT WEAPONS FOR HAMAS! (trust me bro)"

They were not trying to stop food (why would they care?) from going into Gaza (before Hamas attacked Saturday), they were trying (and apparently failing) to stop WEAPONS from being smuggled in.

Weapons. You know, like all the rockets Hamas has been firing into Israel. Weapons?

Please tell me you understand that just because a truck is full of boxes labeled "food for innocent children". That doesn't mean that's actually all that's in every single container labeled as such.

Do you not understand how smuggling works? -Or do you not think Hamas would stoop so low as to smuggle weapons in under false pretenses?

 

[Twinz]

Dragging this on isn't helping anyone on either side.

The ground phase is going to be very difficult. There will be Israeli casualties and probably a lot of them.

Israel needs to do as much as it can from the air before sending troops in.

 

[dave28]

I think whatever is going to happen needs to happen tomorrow.

Because this delay is acting as cover for Israel constantly bombing Gaza, with no end in sight until this operation happens.

Dragging this on isn't helping anyone on either side.

war is a slow dragged out misery, this could last a long long time

 

[Grim5]

It's looking less like Israel is going in and more like they'll just at the border and drops bombs and artillery until Gaza is flattened or Hamas gives up, whichever comes first

 

[banbom44]

The cynic in me thinks Sunak see's it as a vote winner and also provides him with a bit more politiking to say that based on Labours antisemitism connections they would never have done this and then paves the way for them to roll out an election campaign that revolves around saying vote for Labour = vote for Islamic Terror.

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The UK has barely got a military it can hold together for its own needs let alone cosplaying as world police.

Election next year trying to act strong.