Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

nightwish · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:10

n111ck said:
I don’t think there is much more to say

Thank goodness for that.

bjorkiii · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:11

When you keep people in a cage why is it such a suprise when a minority behave like animals. That must be expected to happen surely ? Just human nature. Now back to my book which is titled "Its all their fault not ours".

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:12

Neil79 said:
Just wait till this forum celebrates fasting month again and closes ANY posts that disagree with it in complete fear!

if someone creates a thread celebrating Lent and people started posting in it having a pop at Catholics, i'd imagine those posts would get deleted pretty quickly too. there's no hidden agenda or vendetta so no need to be looking for one.

Scougar · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:12

Both sides is a tragedy. Pointless loss of live based on hate. I simply cannot support terrorists.

I don't like Israeli tactics some times. Heck, years ago, they were shooting at journalists across the border. This comes from years of terrorist activity against them, and likely most places would be the same under that pressure. They are surrounded by enemies.

I am not an expert at all on the situation, but to willfully ignore what Hamas just did and play the "oh no, look what Israel did!!!", is poor form.

Twinz · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:13

Thekwango said:
i imagine she wouldn't have much of a clue who was or wasn't a terrorist in her building but this just highlighs why this approach by Israel isn't going to work, at least not as a long term solution. all that bombing that ladies buidling has done is provide fresh recruits for whatever scum bag organisation takes up the mantle of hamas once they are eradicated. and so the cycle of violence on both sides continues.

-And possibly entombed a number of Hamas fighters.

Scougar · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:13

omnomnom said:
They've been doing a fair few attacks themselves aswell as stealing land etc. They arent innocent in all this.

Never said they were. See my follow up post.

Ayahuasca · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:14

bjorkiii said:
When you keep people in a cage why is it such a suprise when a minority behave like animals.

An ever-shrinking cage, too, while being poked and prodded at the same time.

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:15

bjorkiii said:
When you keep people in a cage why is it such a suprise when a minority behave like animals. That must be expected to happen surely ? Just human nature. Now back to my book which is titled "Its all their fault not ours".

and that's a very important point. when people are treated like animals they behave like animals (that's not to say some people behave like animals even when they are treated right and fairly). throw in a load of islamic state rejects and you've got a potent cocktail of hatred and anger that is only ever going to manifest itself in violent ways.

dpbadger · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:15

Koalaboy said:
In the press conference just now, the Israeli defence minister (who avoided answering many questions) stated that they "do not shoot innocent Palestinians on purpose".

Meanwhile (from the BBC):

I guess throwing firecrackers and stones mean they are no longer 'innocent' and must be Hamas terrorists.

This is what most people protest about. Sure, there are religious nuts and others who have deep-seated hatred, but the majority of normal people would agree the above is also wrong. If it happened over here, there would be outrage... but because it's the Israeli police, it's fine.

It is wrong that that happened. Though put yourself in the situation of the Israeli police officers they are seeing something lit then thrown at them or about to be thrown. In the current climate that could be a pipe bomb or crude IED.

Scougar · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:15

Ayahuasca said:
An ever-shrinking cage, too, while being poked and prodded at the same time.

It didn't have to be this way. They created the situation themselves maybe years ago.

kakarott · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:16

Twinz said:
How large was this building? Are there Hamas tunnels under it? Would she even know who is who in said building or what was under it?

Israel targets Hamas’s labyrinth of tunnels under Gaza

Palestinian militants are thought to have built hundreds of kilometres of tunnels underneath Gaza.

www.bbc.com

"Following a conflict in 2021, the IDF said it had destroyed more than 100km of tunnels in air strikes. Hamas meanwhile claimed that its tunnels stretched 500km and that only 5% were hit. To put those figures into perspective, the London Underground is 400km long and is mostly above ground."

Someone living there would know better than idf 'intelligence'.

It's obvious they're on a revenge rampage on the Palestinians.

Scougar · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:17

Remember years ago when Hamas pretended to be legitimate and non-violent? Lol. That was pure comedy.

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:17

Ayahuasca said:
An ever-shrinking cage, too, while being poked and prodded at the same time.

yup, perfect environment for brainwashing and embedding of hatred.

Scougar · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:18

kakarott said:
It's obvious they're on a revenge rampage on the Palestinians.

Let us know your solution to the mass attack with hundreds murdered in Israel.

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:19

Twinz said:
-And possibly entombed a number of Hamas fighters.

possibly, probably, hopefully.......but they have almost certainly created the perfect environment that allows those entombed terrorists to be replaced in a few years time by the war damaged children this bombing will leave behind.

R3dRaven · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:19

kakarott said:
Someone living there would know better than idf 'intelligence'.

It's obvious they're on a revenge rampage on the Palestinians.

Really? Do you know who's living in your apartment block ? Next door neighbour ? On your Street ?

You have no clue about what others get up to behind closed doors, that's why there's intelligence agency's keeping tabs on people.

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:20

Scougar said:
Let us know your solution to the mass attack with hundreds murdered in Israel.

that's a weak reply. none of us on here have the power or input to come up with solutions but we can certainly call out as wrong the solution Israel have decided upon

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:22

kakarott said:
Someone living there would know better than idf 'intelligence'.

no they wouldn't. terrorists have a way of blending in quite well with the people they claim to represent.

gingergundog · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:22

Mr Jack said:
Slightly more than your comment, so a good start.

A reactionary post saying learn more, pointless when you could have shared what you know about it. That's the point of this forum after all.
Just be civil.

Thekwango · 13 Oct 2023 at 13:26

gingergundog said:
A reactionary post saying learn more, pointless when you could have shared what you know about it. That's the point of this forum after all.
Just be civil.

when people can't even be civil posting messages on a computer forum to folk they don't know and have never met, what hope is there for the a peaceful solution to the issues in Gaza and Israel?