Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Nobody wants that, not even Israel. Israel now feel the need to end this once and for all. Israel itself is pretty small, as is the population. Even when the early tally of deaths came out it was equivalent to something like 21,000 American's being killed during 9/11. It's a significant attack on a relatively small population. Look how the USA responded when only < 3000 died.
Given the small size of Gaza I've wondered if there's a way they could separate the Hamas terrorists away from the innocent Palestinians. There's a nice long beach there. If they could get it over in 24 hours, first give the signal to evacuate to the beach then clean the city out. Of course, processing 2million people into shelter wouldn't be easy though.
To stop a repeat a longer term solution needs to be in place. A Palestinian state but the people also need opportunities otherwise it'll happen again, a terrorist group will form. Born into such an environment, with little to no opportunities, a terrorist or group recruiting from the Palestinian population is way too easy

so you want to put 2 million civillians on a beach, then raze their country, all while not allowing any water, electricty or food in. yeah, can see the UN really getting behind that plan. In fact they could put up some barbwire cordons around the beach "for their protection". Yep, genius of a military plan, persecute an entire nation just to get a few because of the pesky population density getting in the way of a good bit of saturation bombing. This isn't civ 5 where you can go full scorched earth just to get rid of that pesky city state thats a little too close to your capital cities borders.........................
 
I may have missed it in which case my bad but have Israel actually targeted innocent civilians?

not if you don't count kids throwing stones at APC's rolling through their streets................... unless we are also now saying that they were legitimate targets
 
so you want to put 2 million civillians on a beach, then raze their country, all while not allowing any water, electricty or food in. yeah, can see the UN really getting behind that plan. In fact they could put up some barbwire cordons around the beach "for their protection". Yep, genius of a military plan, persecute an entire nation just to get a few because of the pesky population density getting in the way of a good bit of saturation bombing. This isn't civ 5 where you can go full scorched earth just to get rid of that pesky city state thats a little too close to your capital cities borders.........................
It was just an idea and yes, I know it's not great. And gaza is not a country, it is a very small area. Well come up with something yourself to try to save the non-terrorist occupants there?
 
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You must be Olympic level at dodgeball.

I didn't say anything about Israel targeting civilians...
Oh good, because targeting innocent civilians (and using civilians as human shields) is what I have been criticizing Hamas for.

I have not criticized Israel for these things because I haven't seen evidence that they are doing these things.
 
I may have missed it in which case my bad but have Israel actually targeted innocent civilians?
Mmm, let's see:

Journalists clearly marked as Press
Doctors running to help the injured (taken out by Israeli snipers)
Kids with stones (really? bullets versus stones?)
Farmers defending their villages being flattened to make way for Israeli settlers
and **** loads of other stuff!
 
It was just an idea and yes, I know it's not great. And gaza is not a country, it is a very small area. Well come up with something yourself to try to save the non-terrorist occupants there?
IDF has enough resource to do a proper land based incursion and root out the terrorists. Considering that they ahve basically declared war they can mount a land assult without being accused of invasion, but that measn putting soliders in potnetial harms way and on their scale of life worth I am guessing that they would rank palestinian civillians a lot lower than trained military personnel so it's way easier to live with yourself on that basis alone when you turn a few thousand palestinian civillians to glass becasue hey they would probably end up being terrorists anyway................
 
Mmm, let's see:

Journalists clearly marked as Press
Doctors running to help the injured (taken out by Israeli snipers)
Kids with stones (really? bullets versus stones?)
Farmers defending their villages being flattened to make way for Israeli settlers
and **** loads of other stuff!

don't forget the murder of 4 unarmed UN observers when their observation post got flatened because they were probably Hezbollah sympathisers anyway................
 
google is your friedn. IDF have previous for shooting stone throwing kids and also form for regularly detaining children as young as 6 for stone chucking
It's your claim. Google needs to be *your friend*.

As a US military veteran, I have heard stories of US military personnel doing some really ****** up ****. -But then they get court-martialed.

It's one thing to have someone snap and go crazy or just be evil. It's another matter altogether to train your personal to go find and kill civilians, then cheer for them when they do.
 
IDF has enough resource to do a proper land based incursion and root out the terrorists. Considering that they ahve basically declared war they can mount a land assult without being accused of invasion, but that measn putting soliders in potnetial harms way and on their scale of life worth I am guessing that they would rank palestinian civillians a lot lower than trained military personnel so it's way easier to live with yourself on that basis alone when you turn a few thousand palestinian civillians to glass becasue hey they would probably end up being terrorists anyway................
So what is your idea? That's a very long string of text that hardly makes much sense to me?
Also London area - 1.57K km²
Gaza strip area - 360 km²
 
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Anyone targeting innocent people should be condemned.

I'm well aware of the actions of the Israel forces. If you are against that then be consistent and be against Hamas killing innocents too.

you show me a post in here where anyone has said to the contrary. I might have missed it, but I don't think I have read anyone posting jsutifcation for the Hamas terrorists.
 
Oh good, because targeting innocent civilians (and using civilians as human shields) is what I have been criticizing Hamas for.

I have not criticized Israel for these things because I haven't seen evidence that they are doing these things.

They have, as mentioned above.

No-one here has defended Hamas but they do have sympathy for the Palestinians, who have suffered not only because of the Israelis but also because of their 'allies'.

You on the other hand seem to have some warped thinking that leads you to thinking the Palestinians should show gratitude to Israel for giving them basic necessities. Almost, but not quite, as ridiculous as expecting concentration camp prisoners to show gratitude when given food.

Sooner Hamas goes the better, but Israel isn't exactly clean here.
 
Maybe look at a map?
Well, they do, but they have a side effect - they reduce humans to little piles of carbon.
Well, that explains why I am not a nuclear scientist. I thought the entire purpose was to generate an EMP without any significant actual explosion that is able to fry electric circuits without causing material physical damage
 
I'm going to leave this now as it ends up being the same things over and over again every few years.

Seems to have resurfaced for obvious reasons but being anti-Israel or opposed to Israel's actions (in general, not in defending their nation which they have every right to do) does NOT make you antisemitic. Otherwise, are Jews who oppose or criticise Israel also...antisemitic?
 
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