Italian Grand Prix 2011, Monza Circuit - Race 13/19

drunkenmaster said:
What happened with Hamilton there, up to the end of the second sector Hamilton was 0.37 up on Webber when he went round, then ended up just behind at the end, they suggested he was also not using DRS anywhere around the track...... sandbagging, doing 1 or 2 uber sectors then dropping off, hiding his pace a little? Had he kept the lap going I think he was set for another just under 1.24 lap.

EDIT:- now at the end of the session, 1st sector, what was he, 0.5 almost down, second sector he pulled that back to 0.1, and last sector he's back to 0.5 down, no idea what his setup is right now but he seems way slow in sector 1/3, and just epic in sector 2. Button was faster in q1 than Hamilton so not sure what the issue is, seems odd he can be that much slower than Rossberg, and is this the stupid big wing hurting the Mclarens really badly in sector 1/3?
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Ever thought of more downforce, it's why they are epic in sector 2 and slow in the sector where top speed matters :rolleyes:
 
Practice 3 times

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[b]Pos   Driver                Team                  Time              Laps[/b]
 1.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault      1m23.170s           18
 2.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault      1m23.534s  + 0.364  19
 3.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari               1m23.668s  + 0.498  14
 4.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes      1m23.741s  + 0.571  17
 5.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes      1m23.787s  + 0.617  16
 6.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes              1m23.875s  + 0.705  22
 7.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes              1m24.114s  + 0.944  20
 8.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari               1m24.133s  + 0.963  14
 9.  Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes  1m24.543s  + 1.373  21
10.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes  1m24.581s  + 1.411  22
11.  Bruno Senna           Renault               1m24.853s  + 1.683  20
12.  Vitaly Petrov         Renault               1m24.889s  + 1.719  19
13.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari        1m24.948s  + 1.778  22
14.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari        1m25.261s  + 2.091  21
15.  Rubens Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth     1m24.319s  + 2.149  19
16.  Jaime Alguersuari     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m25.426s  + 2.256  19
17.  Sebastien Buemi       Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m25.439s  + 2.269  22
18.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Cosworth     1m25.539s  + 2.369  19
19.  Jarno Trulli          Lotus-Renault         1m27.328s  + 4.158  19
20.  Heikki Kovalainen     Lotus-Renault         1m27.491s  + 4.321  21
21.  Jerome D'Ambrosio     Virgin-Cosworth       1m28.186s  + 5.016  23
22.  Tonio Liuzzi          HRT-Cosworth          1m28.441s  + 5.271  22
23.  Timo Glock            Virgin-Cosworth       1m28.962s  + 5.792  17
24.  Daniel Ricciardo      HRT-Cosworth          1m30.316s  + 7.146  16
 
Apparently Hamilton made the comment a few weeks back that he beleives RBR will still have an advantage next year.

I'm wondering, why he doesn't jump ship and make an effort to goto RBR?

Plead, beg, offer to drive for free - whatever it takes. Get in an RBR.

After this season, he will now understand that McLaren aren't capable of handling RBR and as such, he should make the (hard) decision.

I remember in 1992, when Senna was top dog, he offered to drive for free, for Williams - he was desperate to win and be in the best car. He stuck it out at McLaren for the remainder of 1992 and then in 1993. Then moved.

I think Hamilton has given McLaren enough time to sort themselves out (3 seasons) and perhaps it is now time to make a concerted effort to join RBR?

What do you guys think?
 
sunama said:
What do you guys think?
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He should have gone atleast a year ago. They have shown an inability to build proper champion contending cars two years on the trot for 12 years. When was the last time they built back to back cars with a genuine shot. 98/99 and when before that late 80's.

Since Newey left they don't seem to react well to reg changes and never seem to build on the car from the previous year. It's back to square one and catch up.

Don't get me wrong they play catch up better than anyone else on the grid but that's a waste of Hamiltons career.

He should be going toe to toe with Vettel at Red Bull. I imagie he will stay and I hope Mclaren finally get it right.
 
sunama said:
What do you guys think?
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On the one hand he's a very quick driver and RB have the best car so it's a match made in heaven but on the other would he be able to keep the car on the track in enough races to make it worthwhile for RB?

Would be interesting to see how many points he would be behind had he finished every race or kept out of trouble this season.
 
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