January Transfer Window 2010/2011 Season Rumours/Signings

Holy **** Drogba and Torres would destroy the Premiership together.

Alpherah said:
-edit-
Doing the rounds at the moment, hope it gets a sing out next week!

On Jan the 9th he was a Red,
Torres, Torres.
Now hes ****ed off instead
Torres, Torres
He loved the club and he loved the fans
Then slapped in a transfer demand,
Fernando Torres - loyalty in decline!
Click to expand...
Doesn't scan. I mean seriously, you think you'd check that.
 
Stretch said:
For once I agree. The club has been woeful this transfer window. It's the first opportunity for the new owners to make a statement of intent. In reality they've been very indecisive and it's not really sent out the right message.
.
Click to expand...

Realistically I would have though Comolli would have a long list of potential targets that many scouts would have been putting together for months, I can't believe they didn't get together with Kenny on day one, ask about the squad and where both owners/comolli and Kenny had idea's about where they needed strengthening, okay maybe after 3 days of training.

BaZ87 said:
To sign a player of Suarez's calibre sends out the right message. I don't think many if any Liverpool supporters expected to see us sign any big name players this window.

In an ideal world we'd have tied up the Suarez deal in a matter of days but it's not an ideal world. Ajax were bargaining just as hard as we were and had we accepted their £30m demands, it would have sent out completely the wrong message and we'd have been ****ed over with every deal we do from now on.
Click to expand...

Yes, I agree, making a stance isn't a big deal, that I don't care about, though frankly if you were offering 12mil one day and they were asking for 30mil, and honestly keeping in mind how good Suarez was I'm fairly sure you could have offered 20-22mil the next day and sealed it.

THing is, why not start the negotiations 3 weeks ago, its a bit daft. Obviously the worst thing to do EVEN IF they actually were willing to spend 400mil on a new squad, is to go out and offer 30mil from him straight off. City/Chelsea screwed themselves, as have Real and Barca to a degree. Honestly how they got Villa for, was it 30-35mil euro's when they spent 60 odd(and for me another 60mil effective in losing Eto'o) on a not as good striker the year before I don't know.

Honestly I think a lot of the top clubs should have had far more productive transfer windows, getting cash for crap players while they could(carrick, Denilson, Kalou) and theres plenty of decent bargains around, N'zogbia scores and assists pretty consistantly considering the club he's at and frankly how rubbish they are, he's versatile, proven in the league. He can cross, has good pace, can run with the ball, good eye for a pass, can shoot, can defend(at least a bit). Hell, he wouldn't make bad short term left back cover if thats what was needed.

But Liverpool do come across as more in need than the rest of the usual top 6 type clubs, yet they've waited a long time.

Of course theres the argument that, if Kenny bring in a hole host of expensive strikers, and you get in a defensive minded crappy manager that won't use them next season it will be a bit of a waste and owners do like to keep the transfer budget bigger for a new manager. Its a fine line, a midtable club thats not as attractive to a new manager, or a higher up club with a better squad, but not much money and not much a new manager can change.

The question is though, is there that much money, was it good negotiating or is the sudden 10 mil increase in price right after the Torres bid and the first Torres asks for a transfer stories broke as involved with each other as I guessed earlier?

Maybe they really didn't have 20mil to spend(or at least not on a single player) and the sudden "availability" shall we say of 40mil and the desparate need to have a striker before the window ends allowed them to up the bid?

IMpossible to tell really, I guess long term in the next 2-3 transfer windows we'll see how much the owners spend.
 
Last edited:
I said last summer that if Torres left for £40mil plus I'd be happy, and I'm sticking to that. It will give us funds to reinvest in the squad. If we get a second £20mil striker to play alongside Suarez, that leaves another £20mil to give us some further options out wide and a left back.

That said, he's left it too late this transfer window, and the board would be mad to let him go without getting somebody to replace him (viewing Suarez as our 2nd striker rather than replacement here). If he wanted to leave he should have made it clear at the start of the window, and I can't see us selling until the summer now.
 
Liverpool may not even be able to replace Torres, a player of that calibre leaving usually results in a major tactical change for the club.

Remember when Shearer left Blackburn and more recently when Ronaldo left Man Utd. Blackburn couldn't find a replacement for Shearer and Rooney changed his game in a new look Man Utd side.
 
Oxy said:
Liverpool may not even be able to replace Torres, a player of that calibre leaving usually results in a major tactical change for the club.

Remember when Shearer left Blackburn and more recently when Ronaldo left Man Utd. Blackburn couldn't find a replacement for Shearer and Rooney changed his game in a new look Man Utd side.
Click to expand...

Thats life though, teams change even when the personel don't, and they very often change if you change players. Some people would say Liverpool were far to one dimensional with Torres, if someone marks Torres out of the game, or if Torres had a bad game, Liverpool built a team that really ran out of idea's without him playing well.

Ultimately thats a bad way to run a team, build a team that can cope with any single player having a bad game. Villa has a sucky game, Messi scores, Messi has a bad game, Iniesta scores, etc, etc, etc.

Better to have 2 20 goal strikers than one 40 goal striker, odds of something going wrong with all the team built around a single player, be it poor form, an injury or being targeted for double/triple man marking or being kicked to death and you have an issue.
 
With 35mil liverpool could target young from villa and get a proper LB. At the end of the day if a player doesn't want to stay its better to let him go.
 
You know as much as I like Torres, if he doesn't want to play for us then sell him for as much as you can get!! Period....

Face it his performance's this season have been dire, looks like his hearts not been there all season, based on this season performances it kind of softens the blow, no loss....

Go get £50+ million for him Kenny !!!
 
Well i dont think he owe us anything BUT considering Jan 9th he stated himself he was more than happy to carry on with his deal that he signed etc something major must have changed.

The only thing i can assume is that even with Suarez being signed he isnt happy with yet another dull transfer window as i highly doubt our owners struggle for Money look at their baseball team they spend it with no problems so he has had enough thought if he goes to Chelsea they will need investment allot and up until now Roman hasnt spent big in a long long time.

But i also sense the current owners wont just pay the first price their quoted by any club hence why Suarez deal went on aslong as it did.
 
I love how Ballague has gone from "the voice of Anfield" when Rafa was there and all the Scouse loved how he knew who they were signing and when, to after Rafa's gone to "Ballague knows nothing he's full of it, when does he ever get it right"

He got that one right :D
 
Well doesnt matter if its Ballague or any one else can all as easily be wrong as 3 days ago we apparently stopped all talks regarding suarez yet a fee has officially been agreed
 
Balague was right the same way a broken clock is right twice a day. The other month Balague claimed that neither of Torres or Reina would leave in January too.

Difficult for him to get both stories wrong.

edit:
And a bit more on the Suarez fee; looks like €22m up front and €4.5m in performance related add-ons.
 
Last edited:
I have to say I am a little disappointed in Torres (in that I think he should at least have waited until the end of the season), but I can totally understand his request. With the way the team has played / been managed the end of last season and half of this, it's hardly surprising he wants away.

I would hope that with the Suarez deal now agreed, Torres might re-consider, but I also fear that the only reason we agreed with Suarez is (as has been said before) that we knew the money would be there.

After all, Torres hands in a written request the day before the Suarez deal was agreed. Might not be connected, but doesn't look good. Also, could the owners be looking for a bidding frenzy on the last few days of the window? Who knows.

If he does go, I think we need to push for as much as possible. £40m+ would definately help soften the blow, but he is going to be nigh on impossible to replace, especially with the clubs current situation and position in the league :(

EDIT - oh and PLEASE not Chelsea :( :(
 
Funny how he's "the ITK" to know if he's telling you what you want to hear.

Full of **** when he isn't :D

You should be like most football fans and realise he knows about as much as we do in today's society, what with the intarweb.
 
The timing still annoys me. It's not that he wants to go, I've been saying for months now that I thought he would go at the end of the season due to another year without champions league football...its the timing that grates.

2 days before the window closes, knowing there is hardly any time left to use the money from his sale, on the same day as a major signing. It just stinks. Plain and simple its bang out of order.

Last night I thought we should hold him til summer but this morning the anger has grown too much and my mind is changed. Get shot of him today, I don't care if he goes to city or chelsea or united. Just get shot of him today, for 50-60 million. Get on the phones like mad and get the ball rolling for a last minute deal for benzema or lukaku or someone and another player or two.
 
Diggsy said:
Also, could the owners be looking for a bidding frenzy on the last few days of the window? Who knows.
Click to expand...
Could be. They said they would be targeting younger players with a resale value when they took over so perhaps they see the sale of an injury troubled Torres at 26, nearing 27, good business and they're the ones pushing the transfer.

Would send out all the wrong signals from a football point of view but they know very little about the game.
 
I've always said Balague's full of **** however even the worst journo's have the odd contact and believe it or not, he used to get stories direct from Benitez in the past.

Beyond that, he's a chancer.
 
Last edited:
BaZ87 said:
You know Torres is only 26?

With or without Torres, I'm very confident that next season we'll be at least challenging for a top 4 spot..
Click to expand...

Yes I know he's 26 my point was if he was to stay while money was invested in the team year on year to get your team to the point where you could challenge for a title not 4th spot he would be 31.

Unless you spend like city which I don't believe you can, it's going to take atleast 5 years and I'm sure he wants to win something domestic in his career.

Challenging for a top 4 spot still has you miles off being a quality side.

I love watching fans turn on hereos when they hand in a transfer request. I await the get out of our club video with a bunch of celebs. :D

Now lets see if you stick to 'we only want players to stay that want to play for liverpool'.

Why not start talking to chelsea now if thats the case.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom