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If the reports about Rooney being offered £300k pw, the captaincy, info on all the future transfers and the placenta of Moyes's first grandson etc just to keep him are true then they're playing a dangerous game.
Not only does it reek of desperation, which is never attractive in a club, but no player is bigger than any club and it gives the impression he can just get whatever he wants when he wants.
They should just let him go, you can't let players have that much power.
 
JohnnyG said:
Leighton Baines has just signed a new deal at Everton by the way.
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With Oviedo getting injured for the foreseeable future there was no way in hell we could have sold Baines in January anyway. As I said before at his age and problems settling it might not have been that good a buy for United anyway.
 
JohnnyG said:
If the reports about Rooney being offered £300k pw, the captaincy, info on all the future transfers and the placenta of Moyes's first grandson etc just to keep him are true then they're playing a dangerous game.
Not only does it reek of desperation, which is never attractive in a club, but no player is bigger than any club and it gives the impression he can just get whatever he wants when he wants.
They should just let him go, you can't let players have that much power.
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I doubt it goes as far as you say, but the inform rooney we have seen some of this season, considering how long he has been at the club (despite his various tantrums) has to be worth 300k per week, and id much rather we paid him that to keep him than let him go elsewhere, knowing how much he contributes to a team.
 
JohnnyG said:
Leighton Baines has just signed a new deal at Everton by the way.
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That's great news for Everton. Very positive and shows which direction the club's heading.. not that contracts really mean anything..


France goalkeeper Hugo Lloris, 27, could quit Tottenham in the summer if Spurs fail to qualify for the Champions League.
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Might as well leave now then.. The CL has too many negative side affects for my liking :(
 
JohnnyG said:
If the reports about Rooney being offered £300k pw, the captaincy, info on all the future transfers and the placenta of Moyes's first grandson etc just to keep him are true then they're playing a dangerous game.
Not only does it reek of desperation, which is never attractive in a club, but no player is bigger than any club and it gives the impression he can just get whatever he wants when he wants.
They should just let him go, you can't let players have that much power.
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It's a tricky situation but I'd much rather we kept him. Until his injury he was playing extremely well and carrying the team single handedly. Moyes seems to know how to get the best out of him.

I personally think he's one of the best players in the world, easily, there's no other striker like him who can essentially play all over the pitch, the amount of times he makes important defensive challenges is astonishing, and when the team is playing badly he can still run the game.

If we don't make the top four, which is quite possible at the moment, we won't get a replacement even close to his quality. I don't think there even is a replacement for him, as he's so unique.

His behaviour has been less than ideal, wanting to leave and so forth, but that's mostly the doing of his agent, who by all accounts is a nasty piece of work (Paul Stretford). I suspect Rooney is pretty easily led by such a man.

When we get some of the more worthless players off the books, I have absolutely no problem with Rooney being paid more.
 
Pretty spot on Robbo

I wish he hadnt asked to leave once /twice /three times, but considering players have a relatively short career at the very top I can see why those like Rooney would get frustrated with some of the dross that he is forced to play with.

Given the explosion in the TV rights this season asking for another ~50k a week isnt that much (as long as Utd can continue to attract the likes of Mata, RvP etc and therefore hopefully stay were the club has been continuously for the last 20 odd years)
 
Arsenal fans, we've apparently signed Nico Yennaris from you on a permanent basis. All I know is that he can play RB or DM/CM, but is he any good? We've got plenty of talent and cover in those positions, so just wondering if this is cover, replacement or upgrade. :confused:
 
toshj said:
Arsenal fans, we've apparently signed Nico Yennaris from you on a permanent basis. All I know is that he can play RB or DM/CM, but is he any good? We've got plenty of talent and cover in those positions, so just wondering if this is cover, replacement or upgrade. :confused:
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Seen him play a couple of times, he has potential and is very good at reading the game, not seen him play as an RB only DM/CM and he seemed capable in those positions.

Another good young player who unfortunately never seized his opportunities.
 
toshj said:
Arsenal fans, we've apparently signed Nico Yennaris from you on a permanent basis. All I know is that he can play RB or DM/CM, but is he any good? We've got plenty of talent and cover in those positions, so just wondering if this is cover, replacement or upgrade. :confused:
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Really good signing, particularly on a permanent. Of course it's not a certainty he'd be good, some players if they aren't played for years or get paid too much end up lazy players who never bother any more, lower leagues are littered with ex utd/chelsea/arsenal players who basically gave up trying because they had more than enough cash already.

He put in a bunch of very good performance, mostly very far apart. Looked good in all positions and pushed forward from DM a fair amount. Smallish but I really thought he looked like given games he could become pretty damn good.

Does wind me up when Arsenal fans say stuff like "never seized his opportunities" Wenger is one of the worst in the league for rotating and giving younger players a real chance. A couple games during an injury crisis, if lucky, and a couple cup games and that is all they get, even if they play great they never get seen again. Most players improve with games played in a really competitive situation, it's no surprise that Ronaldo or Bale all start to improve and show maybe their real potential after 2-3 years of a solid number of appearances. 98-2004 we played younger players a hell of a lot more, since 2004 or so they barely get a look in unless brought in for first team(cesc, Walcott, AOC, Ramsey, the actual guys brought in at 15-18 and not ready for first team, barely ever get seen).

If he gets games I think he'll improve loads and could be a really very good player.
 
The Mata transfer in detail: www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jan/26/chelsea-manchester-united-juan-mata-transfer

Perhaps the most intriguing part of the long, complex process that finally led to a helicopter carrying Juan Mata arriving at Manchester United's training ground on Saturday is that a £37.1m deal can be arranged without as much as a telephone call between the clubs. Several months of positioning, mutual suspicion and political bargaining, and everything was done without a single word being exchanged in person.
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Well done Ed! :p
 
drunkenmaster said:
Really good signing, particularly on a permanent. Of course it's not a certainty he'd be good, some players if they aren't played for years or get paid too much end up lazy players who never bother any more, lower leagues are littered with ex utd/chelsea/arsenal players who basically gave up trying because they had more than enough cash already.

He put in a bunch of very good performance, mostly very far apart. Looked good in all positions and pushed forward from DM a fair amount. Smallish but I really thought he looked like given games he could become pretty damn good.

If he gets games I think he'll improve loads and could be a really very good player.
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Should be interesting either way. It would seem as if we don't really need him at the moment, as our immediate concern is cover at CB, however I think this is a transfer for next year as much as this season. I imagine Logan and Barron will be gone come the end of June, and Yannaris can apparently fit in at LB/RB, so we may be killing two birds with one stone - excellent young footballer, and shaving a player of the wage bill.
 
So why Mata and not Özil? Timing, basically. Özil was offered to United in the first week of the summer transfer window, but Moyes had barely seen Kagawa at that point and wanted to learn more about a player about whom Sir Alex Ferguson had left glowing reports. As it has turned out, Kagawa has been disappointing.
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Good grief.
 
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