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Has it even been confirmed if it's a loan or permanent ? Ahh well time will tell. This remy bloke is ment to be one of Frances best talants. Wounder if we go for him again.
 
No1newts said:
DM for every decent post you counter this with complete guff.

Though that is as much a revelation as the fact that Cashley is screwing us.

How can the club stand on its own feet (as Cashley wants) if he is stripping the club of all chance of commercial revenue. Estimates (and that's all they can be) put us around 38-40mill if we had full access to all commercial streams as opposed to just Wonga. If Cashley wants to alma me money then fine, make money through the commercial revenue. Instead he is (in effect) assets stripping and keeping the money from sales/tv/gate to make his money and using other revenue streams to boost his financial empire.

He is double bubbling and making money both ends, he wants it both ways and how is that right?

It's not the clubs fault he didn't follow due diligence but now we are the ones being punished and until he leaves we are stuck.
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Precisely what sponsorship is Newcastle missing out on that should be worth loads to them, and where on earth does the 40mil estimate come from?

You were on 10mil over 4 year Northern rock deal while in the championship, when they got bought out this became a 2year 10mil deal(5 a year). They ended this early and moved to a £8mil deal a year from Wonga.

Puma became their kit sponsor a few years ago and renegotiated the deal while apparently Newcastle were 4th in the prem a couple years ago... but I can't find a value stated in any news on that deal.

The shirt deals, kit/sponsor, and other associated sponsorship outside the top 6 is no where near what consistent european teams can achieve. You know why they have a £8mil a year deal with Wonga, and terminated the Virgin 5mil a year deal, because he loves the company, or because it was the best offer they got. No one is screaming to throw money at a recently struggling, north east team with a single derby no one outside the north east cares about.

Bigpig said:
That my point what's the point lol?

He should already have agreed terms and wages before the loan.

These loans will cost us millions and end up with nothing in return
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There is the little factor that Remy had a rape case hanging over his head when you signed him. The point of a loan is, it might also cost you much less. Remy may have been a perma crock, gone to jail, hated Newcastle, hated the entire team and wanted to leave and had you spent £15mil upfront and given him a 4-5 year contract, may have lost millions benching him or letting him force his way out.

It can go both ways, with De Jong, he had a meh first season and is basically completely uninvolved now. You may loan him and he's complete crap again, with no value and costing you millions for 4 years while no one else will buy him. It's not one way, it's not Remy or De Jong can only be good. Paying a couple mil more than you had to on some players and saving 15mil on others, works out better in the long run.
 
What do Liverpool fans think of an alleged swap for Agger and Inler?

Personally, I think that Agger is class, but we have reasonably good cover at centre back, whereas we're very short in the centre. It would be a shame, but a good move.
 
I think Agger has been very poor recently and while I wouldnt necessarily want to see him go, I wouldnt fight it either. I feel like he's lost an edge due to his injuries.

I wouldnt want Inler though, I dont rate him at all and dont think he'd make it in the EPL.
 
DM bilge
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They are estimates based around what the likes of the Everton/Spurs Of the world earn who aren't in Europe consistently but there isn't any hard data as there isn't a deal in place.

The estimations came from stadium naming/association, billboard advertising, match day/website earnings. Essentially saying that sports direct free advertising is worth around 20mil p/a tops which isn't an insane estimate.
 
Newcastle are not Everton or Spurs and comparing to them is beyond utterly ridiculous, completely ridiculous and another example of the absurd thinking.

Again I'll point out, they cancelled a sponsorship deal to get the highest deal they were being offered...... where exactly would this extra sponsorship come from? Wonga offered more than anyone else would, do you seriously think Nike had a £15mil deal on the table and they chose 8mil from Wonga instead?

Most clubs are getting next to nothing for stadium naming rights. Arsenal are getting almost nothing, 150mil new deal includes 5 years for shirt and 15 years for stadium. Previous was £100mil over 10 years for both, at best the stadium in London is making us £50mil over 15 years.

Everton/Spurs are in europe more often than not with Spurs also hitting the champs league. Newcastle were relegated only a few years ago, no one expects Spurs or Everton to be relegated anytime soon, any Sponsor for Newcastle still maintains that possibility.

YOu completely ignore that they tried to sell the stadium naming rights, and no one was interested, you have a shirt sponsor and shirt maker deal, that is the majority of commercial revenue for most clubs. The idea Newcastle should be near Spurs/Everton commercial values is truly ridiculous. After the current deals expire, should Newcastle not have imploded, the value of such deals will have raised significantly.
 
You will find Newcastle is in the top 20 clubs in the world of club income. That was without playing in europe. Good league year tho

To say we cant compete if managed correctly with Everton is ridiculous..
 
manic111 said:
What do Liverpool fans think of an alleged swap for Agger and Inler?

Personally, I think that Agger is class, but we have reasonably good cover at centre back, whereas we're very short in the centre. It would be a shame, but a good move.
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Would hate to see Agger go tbh, especially with Toure and Skrtel as our current CB pairing...
 
Burned_Alive said:
I think Agger has been very poor recently and while I wouldnt necessarily want to see him go, I wouldnt fight it either. I feel like he's lost an edge due to his injuries.

I wouldnt want Inler though, I dont rate him at all and dont think he'd make it in the EPL.
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^ This

Totally agree with BA on this one, I dont mind if Agger goes, but I dont want Inler.
 
Bigpig said:
You will find Newcastle is in the top 20 clubs in the world of club income. That was without playing in europe. Good league year tho

To say we cant compete if managed correctly with Everton is ridiculous..
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It's a DM post, he doesn't consider facts unless they suit him.

Since 2000 both Everton and Newcastle have been in Europe 4 times (Toon CL twice as opposed to Everton once)

We have 3rd highest average attendance in the EPL.

Everton fans in not having a dig at you or wanting an epeen measuring contest over who is better. Just pointing out DM bull again.

Oh and Spurs have only been in Europe six times in that period, twice CL, and have a smaller attendance.

DMMMMMMMMM BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
 
BaZ87 said:
Deloitte published the top 20 clubs income a few days ago.


Maybe. I know they were 20th the season before last but they're no longer in the top 20.
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:o close enough. Din't know new figures came out. 111.9 million Euro. 7 million euro behind Alt.Madrid says it all really
 
Yeah I think the new one, or perhaps it year before, they were 25th. Not bad for a team who aren't comparable to Everton but above them :eek:

Again, sorry Everton fans, just pointing out DM bull.
 
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