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Need a new LB though if Buttner won't get a chance. Need a new RB as well, Rafa is always injured.
Probably won't go in for Baines at £15m, should just buy Coentrao.
 
The Running Man said:
We can't fir obvious reasons. You can't be spending that much on players for only one good season. Don't get me wrong buying rvp for so much effectively bought us the league title. But what now? Slow old and no resale value to speak of.
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RvP isn't that old and his game has never been about speed. He's just been injured which is quite possibly Moyes' fault, it seems he's risking making Rooney's injury worse now too just because he can't not play him.

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Need a new LB though if Buttner won't get a chance. Need a new RB as well, Rafa is always injured.
Probably won't go in for Baines at £15m, should just buy Coentrao.
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Buttner isn't even a defender, really. Coentrao could be a small improvement on Evra but probably not worth it.
 
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So it takes Moyes 4 years to change a team, however every other manager can do it within a year, usually within a couple of months.

I.e Rodgers, Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho, AVB (granted. Not for the better, but his philosophy was clear early on and changed them), even down to managers like Mark Hughes and Sam Allardyce.

Every other manager on the planet ignites a change in philosophy almost straight away and changes the style to his liking, Moyes takes 4 years though with the 2nd largest commercial team on the planet. Yeah, very believable. You're as deluded as the rest of the faithful, teams and clubs aren't infallible, especially one with no semblance of structure or direction any longer.

Fergie/Phelan succeeded through fear and a dynasty he'd built, nobody cares about that any longer, teams no longer shrink in the last 20 minutes or recognise a team with talents to fear.

And now we've been found wanting, with a manager with **** all credentials. Other than he could penny pinch his way to mediocrity.
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The difference is that all the managers you've named had a philosophy, and went to a club that didn't play that kind of football. Moyes and Fergie teams play very similar styles of football (albeit to different standards).

Moyes' remit was not "come in and change things", whereas Rodgers, Mourinho's, Pellegrini's, AVBs, and even Hughes ("play better football than Pulis") and Allardyce ("play solid, keep us up") remits were to make their teams change styles for more success.

Moyes was hired to keep things the same - he was effectively told "Here, you have a title winning team. You have what Alex Ferguson has called one of the best young squads he's ever worked with. Don't change too much and win it again".

Sadly, what people failed to realise is that Moyes is not able to do what Ferguson can (but then, who can do that?), that the title winning team were reasonably lucky with injuries to key players, that SAF was talking out of his crack when he said that it's one of the best young sides he's worked with, and that there are very very few players at the club who are peaking at present.

Was asking Moyes to come in and keep the ship steady clever? Probably not. Was Ferguson effectively saying that signings aren't needed? Definitely not. Is any of that really Moyes' fault? No. I agree that he's not doing a great job at present, but he's got little to work with and has been thrown into a pretty shocking situation.
 
manic111 said:
The difference is that all the managers you've named had a philosophy, and went to a club that didn't play that kind of football. Moyes and Fergie teams play very similar styles of football (albeit to different standards).

Moyes' remit was not "come in and change things", whereas Rodgers, Mourinho's, Pellegrini's, AVBs, and even Hughes ("play better football than Pulis") and Allardyce ("play solid, keep us up") remits were to make their teams change styles for more success.

Moyes was hired to keep things the same - he was effectively told "Here, you have a title winning team. You have what Alex Ferguson has called one of the best young squads he's ever worked with. Don't change too much and win it again".

Sadly, what people failed to realise is that Moyes is not able to do what Ferguson can (but then, who can do that?), that the title winning team were reasonably lucky with injuries to key players, that SAF was talking out of his crack when he said that it's one of the best young sides he's worked with, and that there are very very few players at the club who are peaking at present.

Was asking Moyes to come in and keep the ship steady clever? Probably not. Was Ferguson effectively saying that signings aren't needed? Definitely not. Is any of that really Moyes' fault? No. I agree that he's not doing a great job at present, but he's got little to work with and has been thrown into a pretty shocking situation.
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The Club doesn't know what direction to go, they have no DNA. The Club has been on autopilot for 4 years, we've played awful football and all that has occured is that teams fearful of the old United expected pressure in the last 20 minutes and would crumble. There was too much respect for a team with very serious lack of talent.

Fergie has left, and with him has that fear, what has occurred, teams are no longer scared to out play us, out pass us, and genuinely show that those in red are for the vast majority competely average and easily playable.

Is this Moyes fault, no, is it the hierarchy's for picking a manager that has literally no right being near a large club, yes. Moyes has no pedigree, he has no tactical ambition, he has literally not a single leg worth of winnings to stand on. His record is poor. Do I blame Moyes for what's happening, no, but i certainly wish he'd at least have had the balls to try something different other than to stick to the crap playbook Sir Alex Ferguson left, which was completely wayward. The Backroom staff was just the first gaff, the 2nd was to expect the train to to continue in the same direction when there's no track remaining.
 
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Robert1986 said:
Lewandowski in Munich for Bayern medical.
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Signs 5 year deal with Munich. Be afraid Europe, be very afraid.

Id say Bayern Munich is the most perfect team in the world right now. They have no weak points in their team. Boateng or Dante can be argued but they have shown their quality over the past 2 seasons.
 
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Robert1986 said:
Signs 5 year deal with Munich. Be afraid Europe, be very afraid.

Id say Bayern Munich is the most perfect team in the world right now. They have no weak points in their team. Boateng or Dante can be argued but they have shown their quality over the past 2 seasons.
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They weren't weak before though, Lewandowski outscored Bayern's top scorers, but he wasn't at Bayern. Ibra was outscored at Barca by Messi, but was the top scorer for his team everywhere else. At Bayern Lewandowski will be as much of a focal point, but the wingers and midfielders will take shots and score where at another team different quality players in those positions would pass to the striker to score.

Mandy is a great player, maybe not brilliant but was more than good enough to win a treble with. With Lewandowski Dortmund weren't even close to them last year nor this year.

Boateng hasn't really proven anything, they've got one of the strongest set of fullbacks and central midfielders, their defence is so solid not because of the CB's but the rest of the team. It's extremely common that the CB's are the ones are fault when they do concede or even lose. Against Arsenal it was poor CB defending, at set pieces against us and more recent games they've conceded or been less good in. Boateng is easily the weakest link, when the fullbacks either get caught out of position or have the rare odd game it's more often Boateng getting shown up than anyone else. Dante has made some big mistakes but is generally speaking a brilliant CB.

Hummels is to some degree similar, he can be brilliant, really brilliant, but when Dortmund have their worst games it's usually Hummels making all the mistakes.

I'd say Boateng is akin to Pique, when the rest of the team keep the ball away from the defence people think he's great, when the opposition get at Pique he barely looks a footballer.
 
It's started.............

Leeds sign Bent.

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