January Transfer Window 2017/18
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I’ve always figured they have a mutual agreement to let him go but at the end of the season like United did with ronaldo and why he didn’t spit the dummy. I can’t see them letting him go in January, the top 4 is too tight.
The way Salah is going he will be next.
The way Salah is going he will be next.
Countinho is always a case of when now I'd report them like athletic has, surely if the Nike thing is true it's illegal approach somewhere I hate how barca handle all transfers getting ever player of there to speak up, be gutted to see him go but we'll just accepted it now. Noticed sudden rumour of butland wants to join us? Hope not true we don't need another poor keeper
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As soon as he wanted to leave and Barca continued to be interested it was always going to be extremely unlikely that he'd stay long-term. As I said a couple of times earlier in the thread, I can't understand why Barca would be so desperate to do a deal now rather than next summer but I do think it's more likely to happen now than last summer, although still far from certain.
Klopp gave an interview to German Sky at the end of the summer where he said that everybody has a price but sometimes it's a case of timing - I read that as him saying that had we had time to prepare and have a replacement(s) lined up then we'd have sold. The club would have known that Barca's interest wasn't going to go away and would have spent the past 4-5 months preparing for the inevitable and I'm sure they'll be prepared to move if and when Barca make us the offer we can't refuse. By all accounts we've continued to track Lemar from the summer and he would appear most likely to be Coutinho's replacement - as above it would make sense for most parties for this to all happen next summer as both Coutinho and Lemar would be cup-tied in Europe.
Klopp gave an interview to German Sky at the end of the summer where he said that everybody has a price but sometimes it's a case of timing - I read that as him saying that had we had time to prepare and have a replacement(s) lined up then we'd have sold. The club would have known that Barca's interest wasn't going to go away and would have spent the past 4-5 months preparing for the inevitable and I'm sure they'll be prepared to move if and when Barca make us the offer we can't refuse. By all accounts we've continued to track Lemar from the summer and he would appear most likely to be Coutinho's replacement - as above it would make sense for most parties for this to all happen next summer as both Coutinho and Lemar would be cup-tied in Europe.
It can also take time for players to get used to the club / league as well, buying a cup-tied player in the middle of the season gives the buying club a mini advantage of being able to rest a n other player when Coutinho plays in a league cup / league game just before / after a CL game also
Its not much benefit , and it can easily go the other way too (the incoming player already feeling out of it before the new season arrives or getting injured and being out for an extended time)
For such a mammoth investment its unlikely admittedly to happen in Jan, but all the very top clubs in Europe are now chasing that minimal advantage over each other maybe resting one or two major stars in the league just before a CL tie could make that difference.
Its not much benefit , and it can easily go the other way too (the incoming player already feeling out of it before the new season arrives or getting injured and being out for an extended time)
For such a mammoth investment its unlikely admittedly to happen in Jan, but all the very top clubs in Europe are now chasing that minimal advantage over each other maybe resting one or two major stars in the league just before a CL tie could make that difference.
Report them for what? It's seems to be clear Liverpool have come to some agreement with the player about when he can move and he's continued to give his best for the club until that happens. Same as Ronaldo did with United. Liverpools stance was clear at the end of the last transfer window, so very much doubt this is all happening without them agreeing it.
How have Barca done anything wrong, they kept offering more and more money until the window run out.
This is based on what exactly? Is it simply because Coutinho's continued to play well despite some of the silly comments in the summer about how he'd not try any more?
Forget countinho a moment but barca and Madrid in la liga are both ***** when it comes to transfers they amount they tap up players is daft that's why I'd say report, even how they get there current players to constantly talk about new potential buys is annoying enough
Yes, they could force him to stay again however it's not really sustainable to keep doing that. That doesn't mean they've agreed to let him go already though because how would that work if Barca came back with a stupid offer?
It's very possible that we've given him some sort of assurances if Barca were to offer a certain amount in the future but it's far from clear if all you're basing that on is Coutinho playing well.
And fwiw, if and when a deal happens I'm sure it will be fairly easy and straight forward. I said in the last few days of the summer transfer window that if Liverpool were serious about bidding for Lemar while still pushing for Keita & VVD then, despite what the club were saying, Coutinho was probably off. As soon as Barca were talking about offering £120m+ then Coutinho was off providing Liverpool could get replacements - they weren't prepared in the summer, they will be now or next summer.
No worse than any english club, they all tap up. I don't imagine many players trade hands without being sounded out if and what it would take for their interest in joining a club. I'd guess every player Liverpool have signed in the last 2 years over 10m has been tapped up in some form.
Yeah that's what I think, job done if they come back with the right money.
I'm not saying we don't or other clubs don't however the extent which barca and Madrid do it is annoying they do it so publicly imo with the press too.
Most of the Liverpool press pack are reporting that Barca haven't made any contact with us over Coutinho yet and that it will take an offer of €150m/£133m for us to consider us selling this month. That's a much softer stance than the not for sale at all in the summer. You have to assume that if we are open to a deal then it's either an agreement in place for the summer and or we have a player lined up to replace him.
The only player i can think we will replace him with is Lemar, though imo we need to get some one in first before letting him go.
It's been reported in the last month or 2 that we've continued to track Lemar from the summer. Whether it happens before or after, I'm not sure it makes a difference. Monaco aren't stupid, they'll know that if we rock up with a €90m offer for Lemar that it's because Coutinho's off - any deal we negotiate for him or anybody else will be with full knowledge of that.
I know which is why i think if we dont get him in or any one else before hand will make any transfer harder, if we get £150m for Countinho then try to get a deal on any one else, any club knowing we just got 150m will make it much more diffcult imo.
You missed the point of what I was saying. Monaco will know that if we bid for Lemar tomorrow that it's because Coutinho is off - they're not going to ask for any less than if we bid the day after Coutinho actually goes.
Torres didn't complete his move to Chelsea until after we signed Carroll for example - Newcastle were well aware that he was going though which is why they bent us over.
Can't pretend I've seen much of him either but from the bits I've seen and read, he plays similar positions to Coutinho if not in the same way - he can play either in the front 3 or in a midfield 3. The difference is where Coutinho's probably now 70% midfielder/30% forward, Lemar seems more forward than midfielder. Fwiw, I think we'll see Keita take on a lot of the creative midfield responsibilities when he joins (although he can play there, I don't think he's being signed as a DM) which might be why we look for more of a forward to replace Coutinho than maybe a like for like. I suppose the attraction to Lemar is that he can play in midfield too.