Japan's 'hottest pin-up' only 12 yrs old.

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Rght, been wading my way through this thread.... so it's time for my say. Not Japanese myself, but been in Japan for two years now (well, actually been in Australia for the last couple of months... but heading back to Japan next week.... I digress). This is my take on it...

The first thing to clear up... she is certainly not mainstream 'pin-up girl' in Japan. There are plenty of other 'legal' (in the UK sense of the word) ladies out there who are the main pin-ups.
Having said that, there is an element of Japanese men, relative large compared to UK, but certainly not all Japanese men, who are obviously attracted to young female children. Most men will not act on these emotions though. Does that make it right... to think about, but not act on? I'm not sure, but that is the justifcation many Japanese will make.

Youth is considered a virtue in Japan, especially amoungst women, though this is changing somewhat, with the slooooooowww Westernisation process of their society.
Most pin-up type ladies will be in the 17-25 (maybe 30 these days) range. Older ladies tend to be actresses instead, rather than pure eye-candy.

Personally, I think she is WAY to young for this kind of stuff, she should be at least 16, but that's me applying Western standards. If I was to go 'European' (based on some age's of consent) 14 would be acceptable. I would still feel uncomfortable at that. Her parents and her are obviously either
a) nieve (most likely in her case)
b) not nieve, but like most Japanese, very good at just 'ignoring' things they don't like. Very "if you don't like something, don't think about it, ignore, and therefore it doesn't exist". I personally think, this is what the parents are doing.
c) Complete money grabbing, immoral people.

Japanese views on sex are somewhat different compared to UK. A lot of it derives from Japanese culture during the Edo period. To a Westerner, a lot of these seem bizarre. For example, perfectly acceptable showing animated sex, men reading pornographics magazines on trains etc etc.... Yet showing pubic hair is completely taboo!!! (Even on educational, natural science programmes, such as the educational type ones shown on BBC for example).
The Japanese talk about sex a lot, but they don't appear to do it much (especially with their own husband/wife). This appears to be a complete seperation of the mother/lover role, a leftover from the geisha society in the Edo (and earlier) period.
 
This is weird, for some reason when I hit New Posts it bought this thread up. But now when I look the previous post to mine was 2006!

Strange, I certainly wasn't looking to bump the post or anything.
 
Where else in the world can you buy a pair of 'Used schoolgirls knickers' from a vending machine?

In Japan the user cannot disable the camera click on their mobile phones due to businessmen taking up-skirt photos on the underground.
Also there are coaches that are school girls only for that same reason.
 
this is basically all ridiculous. a hundred years ago 12 year old girls were getting married to 40 year old mem and that was deemed fine. mostly our culture has placed an arbitrary line between adulthood and a certain level of schooling. because adults don't continue to learn, or if you never finished high school you aren't capable of getting married or being an adult. its all ridiculous.

we simply try to treat people as children to impose control, to insist they do as they are told in school till a certain age. schooling system is failing because we aren't simply kids till 18 years old, but we are treated in the same way in school from 12-18, badly, we are simply told what to do rather than encouraged to learn by interesting us. but this has been the biggest change in the last century, schooling suddenly taking a lot longer than it used to.

japan is much more socially ahead of us, they managed to include the idea that we can continue schooling while being adults. they treat people the same as they did 100 years ago.

shockingly our culture is going to crap because "younger adults/kids" have no respect for adults because, they are treated as lesser people based on this arbitrary adult/kid line. for 1000's or years we , like any other species, are deemed adult at really the age of being able to reproduce, english society has been EXACTLY like that for 1000's of years, we've imposed massive and frankly ridiculous changes in the very recent history.

this ignores the fact that, kids at 12 ARE still getting pregnant. all this bullcrap about they are physically able, but not ready. again thats completely and utterly arbitrary. who exactly says they aren't ready? the main difference is if a 12 year old has a kid now, she won't be married or have a husband at work supporting them, 100 years ago they would have that. everyone is different and everyone should be allowed to choose they right time for them to do anything. so much for freedom.

in japan the difference between a early developing 12-13 year old and a late blooming 20 year old could be not noticable, but legally here you could sleep with one and not the other, despite the fact they look the same. we've evolved differently, japanese women often look very very young, attraction is attraction, if their 25 and 15 year olds look the same and you were attracted to the 25 year old, you'd be attracted to the 15 year old.

if there wasa 12 year old developed so early she looked like angolina jolie right now half of the people in this thread WOULD be attracted to her, i wouldn't, i hate her face.

we jump all over them for putting up (clothed?) pictures of a young girl, but we routinely have early teen pregnancies. it doesn't matter that our law is 16 for the age of consent, 12 year old boys/girls in our country are having sex, its fact, thats ok, we won't mention that, but they can't do it over there and theres outrage? over their society says thats ok, their law says its ok, and their girls look compared to here, much more adult but they are all horrible people and a awful culture. but here we have laws, our 12 year olds don't look like our 25 year olds, and its seen as bad, and we do have 12 year olds having sex, but thats ok?
 
The mistake westerners often make is that this is about sex.

What it comes down to from a psychological perspective is this; The west is all about sex. Japan is all about cute.

I don't think the average Japanese man would see it as a sexual thing. Could be wrong though.
 
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Anyone who watches a variety of Japanese animation will know what Jap culture is like.

Likewise anyone who has read Outpost Nine will know exactly what it's like.
 
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