Odd take.
No major point, just saying my friend is not ignorant of the issues - a person he is travelling with is indeed gay, so it's not a 'head in the sand issue'.
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Joe Lycett - Qatar/Beckham debate
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Odd take.
No major point, just saying my friend is not ignorant of the issues - a person he is travelling with is indeed gay, so it's not a 'head in the sand issue'.
Caporegime
How do you know his gay friend is not being looked into? I bet everyone is being screened when entering. Just seems like a proper dodgy country. Next thing he knows he is behind bars.
Soldato
Screened for being gay? Do gaydars actually exist?
Caporegime
Everyone has a digital identity today which is a piece of pie to find info on. I had my identity stolen a couple of years back so if some scum in a basement can do it I am sure government organisations can. At the end of the day you are going into a country as something illegal there that could end up as a prison sentence or death. Props to the guy going but I wouldn't personally take that risk.
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Soldato
Jesus out of the millions of people crossing borders, they aren’t looking to terrorists, they aren’t looking for violent criminals, they aren’t looking for hauls of heroin, instead they’re looking for … gay people.
They’re monitoring people’s identities just to arrest them at the border for being gay.
I’m guessing you’ve never been to Qatar or anywhere in the gulf lol.
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Maybe we should import some Qatary immigrants to help enact change in the UK
Soldato
I’d be amazed if you could convince any of them to leave Qatar and move to the U.K.
My Arabic is pretty poor but I'd give it a shot.
"أعود إلى مكاني ، أظهر لك الوقت المناسب."
Caporegime
I am just saying I wouldn't feel safe going there. I haven't been to anywhere in the gulf yet have been all over the world and wouldn't plan to go to that part of the world either. My brother worked and lived in Dubai and now lives in Australia so I have heard all the stories.
Soldato
What stories did he tell you about safety in Dubai?
If you’ve been all over the world then I’m sure you’ve been to places far more dangerous than the gulf as almost all countries are so.
I’m also surprised someone that has also been all over the world doesn’t understand that you can’t judge a place you’ve never set foot in. Surely you must have had some surprises on your travels when you found a place was very different to what you’ve heard or read?
Permabanned
We have more than enough immigrants already, and they have already enacted many changes. Some would say too may changes...
We don't need more immigrants to effect changes to lower the crime rate, especially given the disproportionate number of immigrants already incarcerated in our prison system
Now, importing some of the methodology of the judicial system in Qatar is a different matter.
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Caporegime
It was back in the early days. He has lived in Australia for decades but from what I have seen not much has changed.
Soldato
Seems pretty simple to me, and no different to anywhere else. Simply research and observe the relevant local laws and rules, and respect local customs and tradition.
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Oooh, such as?
We have more than enough immigrants already, and they have already enacted many changes. Some would say too may changes...
We don't need more immigrants to effect changes to lower the crime rate, especially given the disproportionate number of immigrants already incarcerated in our prison system
Now, importing some of the methodology of the judicial system in Qatar is a different matter.
Hate to break it to you but we need a lot more immigration or else we will end up like Japan. We aren’t having enough kids.
Hate to break it to you, bigots don't like facts.
And then right on cue...
Fans paid to attend World Cup by Qatar have daily allowance cancelled
Fans who have travelled to Qatar as part of a controversial paid-for supporters programme have been told by Qatari authorities that their cash has been cut
www.theguardian.com
Qatari royals who banned World Cup beer caught on camera at FIFA party
Supporters will be banned from buying and drinking beer in and around stadiums at the World Cup in Qatar.
www.express.co.uk
Soldato
I await to be corrected here but is it actually illegal to be homosexual in Qatar or is it just homosexual acts that are illegal?
I did have a look but the penal codes referenced on a couple of sites seem to suggest the latter.
I did have a look but the penal codes referenced on a couple of sites seem to suggest the latter.
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