Not sure, had only read the first page and a half or so, if your post was there, possibly, there were 3 or 4 strange posts
John Terry Racism Trial
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Not sure, had only read the first page and a half or so, if your post was there, possibly, there were 3 or 4 strange posts
It's pretty easy to go back and check...
Unless you now realise the idiocy of what you posted, and are now backtracking.
I'm not backtracking, this forum has lots and lots of BNP followers who are very vocal and unashamed, it's not a stretch to say that some are in here considering some of the posts.
The 'sticks and stones' post and a few more were the ones that caught the eye. Dismissing it like that poster has is not good
Absolutely. You could even say that they probably do have, especially if they have said it on more than one occasion. However to say that because they've used a certain term somebody unquestionably does have those beliefs is wrong.
I'd have quoted your post if I was referring to your post, I'm not going to readily quote the garbage some were coming out with as I'd rather not have it under my username if possible. I hadn't and still haven't read your post so you can rest easy, it's not about you
That is what the quoting is there for innit?
No but in this case logic dictates that it's probable he does hold racist thoughts, more so than he doesn't, which is what some posters were posting. Some people were dismissing it as if there was no way he could be racist, when this boosts the probability significantly. If he had called him a '******* gay ****' it'd be probable he had homophobic thoughts etc. just using what evidence we have
Which posts says this?
I've only read the opposite, with people claiming that if you make a racially offensive comment then you undoubted are a racist.
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Ok, inconsequential anyway I suppose as I wasn't talking about your post
That wasn't in your post pre-edit but answering the question, it depends on which way you interpret what he's said. I read that as if he's saying that making a racist comment doesn't automatically make you a racist rather than you undoubtedly are not a racist despite making a racist comment.
Ok, hope it's the first. But my original comment wasn't stupid. As we all know there are many BNP supporters on here and they jump on the racism threads, there's posters who I've never seen in SA who come in specifically for the racism threads to defend the one accused of racism, seems strange is all. I wasn't talking about any of the regular posters as I hadn't got to their posts yet
How do you know who supports who? Just because i do not think John Terry is a racist does not make me a BNP supporter. I support Labour and always will. Just because i think that countrys gone hyper sensitive in recent years does not mean i have any problems with anyone not white british. I think its' good that the country has a decent mix of cultures and when it comes to skin colour it really doesn't make any differernce.
I think its pathetic to think that people on here who think that John Terry is a racist are themselves being classed as BNP followers and in turn racists or have racial beliefs.
John Terry very probably isn't racist, he simply wanted to cause Ferdinand hurt at that particular moment, in response to a jibe about his extra martial affair, and chose to use a neandethall set of words probably in keeping with his mental capacities. However, my judgement is not clouded on this, I am quite happy knowing that I utterly detest John Terry in every way shape and form, and on that basis hope that he is found guilty of the offence and severly punished, regardless of his innocence in this matter, out of pure unadulterated spite on my part.
Bit libellous there, careful
Note for future posts: if you want to avoid looking silly then don't come in a thread and make silly accusations about BNP supporters without first reading the posts in this thread based on posts in other threads. It avoids a lot of backtracking.
I am not the only who looks silly in this thread, look at this post here above mine, calling somebody 'a ******* black ****' is now a joke, in jest. I haven't backtracked, I stand by the statement ..
I'm not a massive fan of john terry, but you have to be very careful when labelling people racists as it has a certain negative stigma (more so than others), more so than any other "ist" buzz word. Being labelled a racist can "stick" to that person for the rest of thier lives.
When compared to other discriminitation of similar type (as in, aspects that an individual has NO control of).
- Race
- Gender
- Skin Colour
- Hair Colour
- Weight
- Sexuality
- probably some others i haven't thought of.
Race seems to get special treatment and more media attention than the others. Maybe thats due to our recent history, the way the goverment percieves britain as a multi cultural society and wants to be seen as stamping out racism (this is a good thing btw).
When was the last time someone got taken to court over calling someone "You ****ing Ginger ****". Hair colour and skin colour are equally not a choice by the said individual, but a remark about skin colour is deemed a worser insult.
Recent history is probably a reason for this(mentioned by a previous poster) and thats the way it is at the moment, it's how britian (and the western world) is at the moment. We have goverment plans and quotas to increase the amount of non-white members in parliment, boards of directors and jobs/employment (along with increasing the amount of women and homosexuals in these areas), the british goverment wants to be seen as a a tolerent society accepting all walks of life. If you get in the way of that (publicly saying a racist remark like JT did, Live Football Game) it will get stamped out and you along with it, by the media, social stigma and legal action.
As i said before, i don't like john terry, he is pretty much lower than low, but labelling him a racist is quite a statement, especially with the consequences of such a label. He said a discriminitive insult after recieveing a non-discriminitive insult (you shagged your mates misses), he should have replied in kind and not upped the ante, especially to a topic that has had a lot of goverment/society attention recently.
What JT said was racist, but to label him a racist is a bit too much. I can understand why he replied that way though, the insult anton thrown at him must have got to him.
Please fully star all swearing in future. Thank you.
When compared to other discriminitation of similar type (as in, aspects that an individual has NO control of).
- Race
- Gender
- Skin Colour
- Hair Colour
- Weight
- Sexuality
- probably some others i haven't thought of.
Race seems to get special treatment and more media attention than the others. Maybe thats due to our recent history, the way the goverment percieves britain as a multi cultural society and wants to be seen as stamping out racism (this is a good thing btw).
When was the last time someone got taken to court over calling someone "You ****ing Ginger ****". Hair colour and skin colour are equally not a choice by the said individual, but a remark about skin colour is deemed a worser insult.
Recent history is probably a reason for this(mentioned by a previous poster) and thats the way it is at the moment, it's how britian (and the western world) is at the moment. We have goverment plans and quotas to increase the amount of non-white members in parliment, boards of directors and jobs/employment (along with increasing the amount of women and homosexuals in these areas), the british goverment wants to be seen as a a tolerent society accepting all walks of life. If you get in the way of that (publicly saying a racist remark like JT did, Live Football Game) it will get stamped out and you along with it, by the media, social stigma and legal action.
As i said before, i don't like john terry, he is pretty much lower than low, but labelling him a racist is quite a statement, especially with the consequences of such a label. He said a discriminitive insult after recieveing a non-discriminitive insult (you shagged your mates misses), he should have replied in kind and not upped the ante, especially to a topic that has had a lot of goverment/society attention recently.
What JT said was racist, but to label him a racist is a bit too much. I can understand why he replied that way though, the insult anton thrown at him must have got to him.
Please fully star all swearing in future. Thank you.
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