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do not try to think of witty things to say, or topics to talk about. Just talk about what you normally talk about and the rest is easy.

OK, here's the problem. Once I decide to talk (and I'm already crapping myself by this point), my brain is in a fight-or-flight mode and what I'm trying to say comes out completely wrong. As in, I can't make form the ideas into the right words.

Here's an example. I'd be looking at a girl and want to say "you look stunning", and instead I'd say something like "I think I've seen that dress on someone else"... and then I'll freeze, thinking "where the heck did that come from? I didn't want to say that!"

And then you have a real worry that whenever you open your mouth, you can't predict what will come out. You feel embarrassed, the other person gets offended or confused, and when you try to fix it you make it worse.

Might sound hard to believe, but this is why I'm the quiet guy who everyone thinks doesn't want to be there. If I open my mouth it's instant embarrassment.

It doesn't affect me so badly when typing on the net, but I do take like 10 minutes over each post ;)
 
Srs advice - OP go do something interesting, go travel round the world or be a hiking guide in Austria or a ski guide in the Alps or road trip across the US or motorbike down to South Africa or go to a surf camp in Portugal or.. etc etc

good idea. if you have the time and funds, go backpacking for a bit. it will be totally out of your comfort zone but will do you a lot of good, you'll be amazed.
 
Here's an example. I'd be looking at a girl and want to say "you look stunning", and instead I'd say something like "I think I've seen that dress on someone else"... and then I'll freeze, thinking "where the heck did that come from? I didn't want to say that!"

that's not a totally bad thing to say though, you're halfway there. complementing a girl on what she's wearing is pretty much win win, though i'd ask where she got it from instead or something
 
that's not a totally bad thing to say though, you're halfway there. complementing a girl on what she's wearing is pretty much win win, though i'd ask where she got it from instead or something

Ja, ja, but the thing is, in this state of super-anxiety, my brain hijacks my communication, and I literally lose control over the words I'm saying.
 
Ja, ja, but the thing is, in this state of super-anxiety, my brain hijacks my communication, and I literally lose control over the words I'm saying.

takes practice, why wouldn't it? your brain's only doing that because it's triggering something in you saying, ''you're not experienced enough at this, you're going to fail, i can't compute all this. get this over and done with'' like any learning curve, it gets easier, more natural and better with experience. that and you're putting the girl on a pedastal.
 
OK, here's the problem. Once I decide to talk (and I'm already crapping myself by this point), my brain is in a fight-or-flight mode and what I'm trying to say comes out completely wrong. As in, I can't make form the ideas into the right words.

Here's an example. I'd be looking at a girl and want to say "you look stunning", and instead I'd say something like "I think I've seen that dress on someone else"... and then I'll freeze, thinking "where the heck did that come from? I didn't want to say that!"

Why on earth would you want to say "You look stunning.." for anyway.

Don't say anything (to begin with), let them do all the talking and just listen (or not when you get adept at mumbling yes or no, or really!!! at the right times), seriously though, the art of conversation is in the mundaneness of it all, the really successful people are the ones who talk about what the other person is interested in, and the only way to find that out is to listen to them and let them drive the conversation. You will find that once you just listen and respond to what they are saying it is is not long before you realise that you have been talking for several hours without pooping yourself or asking her what colour her knickers are when you meant to ask her what she wanted to drink.

And then you have a real worry that whenever you open your mouth, you can't predict what will come out. You feel embarrassed, the other person gets offended or confused, and when you try to fix it you make it worse.

Don't try to fix it, treat it for what it is, and make light of it. Simply tell them how nervous you are, if they are worth talking to they will understand and in fact are probably thinking and feeling the same way.

In fact fluffing your words is a great ice breaker.....use it, don't be afraid of it.

Might sound hard to believe, but this is why I'm the quiet guy who everyone thinks doesn't want to be there. If I open my mouth it's instant embarrassment.

You just think it is, in all likelihood you would be just fine and if not, so what, use it to break the ice as I mentioned above.

It doesn't affect me so badly when typing on the net, but I do take like 10 minutes over each post ;)

Take your phone, if you get tongue tied, write it out in a txt message, this will do two things, one, it is kinda funny in a girl friendly sort of way, and two, you will get her number......
 
It sounds like you have a deep rooted fear of making a mistake in conversation. And by not wanting to make a mistake, you're not opening up with other people, or worse still, you're not conversing at all.

Two of my favourite books in terms of helping me to become a more socialable, positive person were...

Yes Man - Danny Wallace
How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie

The basic outline of Yes Man is that a guy's friend makes a bet with him that he can't say 'Yes' to everything for 6 months... the book is a true story, and it's interesting to read about what happens to the guy when he suddenly starts saying "Yes" to things around him. Opportunities he never realised existed suddenly open up... it's a very interesting book. :)

How to Win Friends is I think the most famous "self help" book of all time. But that's for a reason - it's really good. It gives some really simple tips about changing your mindset or attitude towards meeting new people in life.
 
Rich L nailed it.

You're stuck in a rut and need to do something drastic to shake yourself out of it.

Save up some money (or if you already have savings, all the better), pack yourself up a badass rucksack of stuff and then get a one way ticket to the other side of the world and spend a year getting back. I bet once you get back in a year you'll be a lot less anxious about people.
 
Hey man, just skimmed through this thread sorry if I missed anything. I looked at your profile pic and I can't see any problems there, is it maybe a wingman issue? The way I normally meet people is by being invited out, I don't go out often at all (every couple of months), but going out with a group gets you 'on the market' and if I see anyone nice I say hello.

My grandpa went down the book route "How to Win Friends and Influence People" but I just don't think about it much, go with the flow (and if your not in the flow, gently move towards the current, head the way you want to go).

And hey, if your still finding it difficult, forget about it for a while, do something else you haven't been doing for a while, or think of something new to try. Hobbies, travelling etc.

oh and..
http://omegle.com/
have some virtual practice, look for someone interesting with a story to tell you.
(avoid the dicks, in fact, wear goggles.)
 
you need to get into "just do it" mood.. this will open up everything.. if you sit there thinking "im this im that blahblahblah" nothing will happen... - people will think the same of you.. so man up go out find a mate/become a mate to anyone just socialize i think thats the only thing stopping you.. stop looking for excuses to do stuff and just turn into "ok ill go ill do i will w/e" mood.

oh and you best mate is your brother ;)
 
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As above. Just chill out, relax. The truth is, people care very little about whether you speak to them or not.

There is no initial expectation, therefore no pressure. The main mistake you can make in life is being too worried about making mistakes.
 
My mind was absolutely blown reading this :|.

Get to the gym, shape up your body, buy good fitting clothes, chat lots of nonsense to women, go outdoors, drink with friends/colleagues.

*also can't see the picture of OP :(
 
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