Junior doctor strike: Union's pay demands unrealistic, says Steve Barclay

[Uther]

Agreed, let the NHS die and then I can pay for a decent service that I can actually access.

Well you can do that now if you have deep enough pockets. I encourage you to do so to take some of the pressure off the NHS.

 

[Minstadave]

Back on to night shifts for me tonight to cover the strikes.

I'll make ready for the onslaught of transgender people, immigrants, health tourists but strangely will mostly just see kids with a fever.

 

[Mrwong]

The Home Office admitted that there is no evidence to claim large number of economic migrants.

Plus, they could help solve the boats and hotel situations if they wanted to. Process quickly, allow asylum applications outside the UK. Anybody who doesn't have a right to be here can go.

Or you could fall into their trap and blame foreigners for it all.

Anything that comes out of the home office do not take it as fact.
They are really bad run by incompetents.

 

[hurfdurf]

Agreed, let the NHS die and then I can pay for a decent service that I can actually access.

That option is already open to you, so don’t just blather about it, back yourself and actually do it instead of whining.

 

[Mrwong]

Back on to night shifts for me tonight to cover the strikes.

I'll make ready for the onslaught of transgender people, immigrants, health tourists but strangely will mostly just see kids with a fever.

A hospital of that size and in that location you'll not see any.

 

[Werewolf]

Third and Final warning.

If the immigrant/economic migrant stuff keeps trying to derail this thread I will issue thread bans.

 

[Freakbro]

You still falling for that blame.

Well if the regressives keep talking about Brown selling off the gold, which they do, then we've got plenty of mileage left with lettuce Liz!

 

[Mrwong]

Well if the regressives jeep talking about Brown selling off the gold, which they do, then we've got plenty of mileage left with lettuce Liz!

I got the impression from most here that Labour are a party of leadership and have done nothing wrong.

 

[checjb]

When I heard the junior doctors rep putting their case forward he pointed out that being the 35% would cost £1bn. That's a huge sum of money. But then I remembered all those times that the government had just found a few £bn when they absolutely HAD to...for political reasons. They always have the cash when THEY feel is important/likely to keep them in power, I note.

 

[matt1]

Back on to night shifts for me tonight to cover the strikes.

I'll make ready for the onslaught of transgender people, immigrants, health tourists but strangely will mostly just see kids with a fever.

Hope the night treats you well.

Rob is a great guy and I’m a bit shocked by the payslip comparison. I fully support the strike it is long overdue for change. When I did an F3 in Australia most of the other brits there stayed put, if change doesn’t come it will get worse and that was in 2016.

 

[Dis86]

Short memories some people have on this forum.

Don't attack people for knowing their worth while ignoring the billions squandered in dodgy contracts or random PM musical chairs.

Next pandemic don't expect people to face death every day whilst others kickback on furlough.

Should all of us who weren't furloughed receive 35% pay rises?

 

[hurfdurf]

Should all of us who weren't furloughed receive 35% pay rises?

Yes, if that’s what it takes to bring pay in line with inflation and so people can afford a decent quality of life.

 

[thenewoc]

Out of interest what was the independent pay review body's recommendation for junior doctor pay rise level?

 

[Goodie]

Out of interest what was the independent pay review body's recommendation for junior doctor pay rise level?

‘Independent’

 

[Dalandius]

Maybe they should stop being call Junior doctor when that is far from what they are, most are far from being Junior.

 

[Minstadave]

Out of interest what was the independent pay review body's recommendation for junior doctor pay rise level?

They're on the 4th year of 2% pay increases:

Doctor's annual pay review from DDRB

The BMA has longstanding concerns about the effectiveness and independence of the DDRB. We have set out the key requirements for reform of the pay review process to ensure that it can function truly independently.

www.bma.org.uk

"Independent" but limited by Goverment who see public sector pay as a tool to curb inflation.

 

[Dis86]

Yes, if that’s what it takes to bring pay in line with inflation and so people can’t afford a decent quality of life.

Why wouldn't you want people to afford a decent quality of life?

 

[hurfdurf]

Why wouldn't you want people to afford a decent quality of life?

Haha typo on my phone as I walk, I’ll edit it.

 

[SmokeKingGun]

35% sounds massive until you realise junior doctors are currently on £14 per hour

 

[StriderX]

Realistically the problem is the last decade of poor pay can't be admitted to by the government so they've likely lowballed to an unacceptable degree and have no intention of compromising for the sake of saving face.

The doctors should honestly just leave the country as they'd be treated better elsewhere.