Junior doctor strike: Union's pay demands unrealistic, says Steve Barclay
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If the nurses go through with the next set of strikes with no derogations they will lose public support and I suspect there will be a backlash. Not going to help the JD’s either.
Soldato
Well don’t faff when your opinions are challenged or disregarded if they are all based on (incorrect) guesswork then. Are your other opinions based on guesswork too?
I am sure you would be perfectly qualified to talk about your own industry rather than just make stuff up so your political allegiance can be vindicated. What was that industry again?
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what was that phrase by Abraham Lincoln that begins with "better to remain silent..."
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I agree that is wrong on all levels no matter how you slice it. but this is not just an NHS issue. our place threatened it a number of years ago. we all threatened to park in the local village (in legal spots of course but the village is a posh one full for rich people who already didn't like having a research park on their doorstep). thankfully the institute backed down.
the big uni hospital near me has a park and ride on its doorstep so a lot just park for free there and walk or cycle the rest of the way (or bus it) but it's not fair really.
The argument will then be why do these workers need X% over inflation.
Which would only be valid if prices fell back to pre-inflation. But can guarantee that your electric, broadband, and food costs won't drop to those levels.
Caporegime
Finished my last strike cover shift, time for a cold one!
Rumours of the next one being in early May. With AfC rejecting their pay deal it'll turn into chaos shortly. GPs are meant to be balloting soon too.
Rumours of the next one being in early May. With AfC rejecting their pay deal it'll turn into chaos shortly. GPs are meant to be balloting soon too.
Soldato
Enjoy that beer! Consultant ballot soon as well!
Pretty soon people will lose sympathy for the NHS staff with all this striking.
I honestly don’t think doctors can be that hard up, my mate 32, said he is working extra weekends at around 1k a day, it’s normal to start on a lower salary as you progress through the ranks.
I honestly don’t think doctors can be that hard up, my mate 32, said he is working extra weekends at around 1k a day, it’s normal to start on a lower salary as you progress through the ranks.
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Soldato
Certainly not the case in all of the UK where parking in NHS car parks is free.
Perhaps they need to be reminded of the fact all they did to say thanks to the NHS for going above-and-beyond during Covid was to clap for them.
Also with regard to your "mate"... ask him how much Student Debt he owes... You'll find out why he's working extra weekends.
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Caporegime
Nurses now including staff in A&E, intensive care and cancer wards in strike action doesn’t sit right with me tbh
What else can they do ? The people will only vote for increased taxes / funding of the NHS when it actually starts to affect them personally.
The police are already prevented from taking strike action, so you end up with a disproportionate number of people going into the force for "The Power Trip" rather than the job / career / salary
Can you imagine what you would be left with if NHS staff were prevented strike action also?
Sadly people are going to need to die for this be resolved appropriately. (I do not mean that callously, more in the same way as when someone says "this won't change until people die" with regard to serious safety violations being ignored")
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And increasing benefits by 10% while shafting everyone else with derisory pay offers doesn't sit well with me, and many others. I say good on them.
Soldato
No but then it's a vision of what life will be if things aren't done to change things. Last resort, hail mary, call it what you will but they're trying to save the NHS.
This really bugs me too. Tory's linking payments for those who don't work to inflation while screwing over the workers.
Caporegime
At a trust I used to work, had to arrive by 0700 to be guaranteed a parking spot...work started at 9 :/
Since I was already in that early...just started the ward round as soon as I got on the ward...basically ~8h of unpaid extra time a week x 40 weeks
When my missus waters broke with our second. We parked on a known road and walked the rest of the way. Just the principal of having to pay is just disgusting. Sure put a time limit on. It would be more tolerable if the money went back into the NHS but AFAIK it is just private profiteering of land that was paid for by the tax payer?
Caporegime
You think Labour wouldn't have done that too?
We cannot know for sure what Labour might have done had they been in power for the last 12 years.
We only know what the Tories have done in that time.
And it doesn't look great, does it?
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Caporegime
I can tell you, they would have raised benefits by inflation, but not paid the RCN nurses what they want. Just like the Tories.