Just had to punch a bloke in B&Q

right, here is my tuppence on this one... i'm not a keyboard warrior so i'm not gonna say i would have jumped out and drop kicked him, but i would have been tempted to try ;)


there are 2 things going on here...

1. the zebra crossing should he/shouldnt he have been there
2. keying the car & the resulting punch in the face

starting with #1.


to all the people saying "pedestrians always have a right of way" crap, lets take another situation:

your average stopping distance at 20mph is 40ft(12m) (20ft thinking, 20ft stopping) taken from the highway code..
Mr pedestrian is joggin along the road listening to his MP3 player, not paying much attention to anything at all (usually how i jog along when i'm listening to music really until i reach a road)
Mr driver is happily doing the 30 limit along a nice clear road, sees the pedestrian walking along the road so slows to 20 incase the pedestrian decides he wants to cross.
at the last second the pedestrian decides he wants to cross the road, with the car 10 meters away from the crossing, and abruptly changes direction out onto the crossing.

now its about 2 meters that the jogger has to travel till he is right in the path of the car, plenty of time to get that distance before the car has had time to get there.

the pedestrian gets hit, who had right of way?
if there were witnesses, what would be said in court?

now for #2

irrelevant of whether you had right or way, or he had right of way, he shouldnt have keyed your car! thats just not on, criminal damage in any situation!
and whilst you shouldnt have got out and smacked him one, it was justified!
 
Gilly said:
Avoid the chance of arrest :)
OK, granted. But if you were in a public place at a busy time and got out of your car to assault someone it's very likely that someone will take a note of your reg number.

Don't get me wrong here, If someone keyed my car i'd love to give them a dig. But thinking they deserve a slap and actually giving them one are totally different worlds.

The law sucks at times, and if both parties were arrested and convicted then i'm confidend the OP would get the heavier punishment which may well be wrong.
BUT, if we didn't have the law we'd be in a very, very scary place indeed.
 
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Cueball said:
Just to play devil's advocate here...

As a road user, I don't feel that I should be completely responsable for the ignorance of pedestrians. If some idiot wants to step out in front of traffic without looking, that is his call.

Agreed - but sometimes I just step out onto crossings just to **** off the twits who are driving to quick - they get an evil stare and everthing.

I've only been hit once.
 
SidewinderINC said:
to all the people saying "pedestrians always have a right of way" crap, lets take another situation:

your average stopping distance at 20mph is 40ft(12m) (20ft thinking, 20ft stopping) taken from the highway code..
Mr pedestrian is joggin along the road listening to his MP3 player, not paying much attention to anything at all (usually how i jog along when i'm listening to music really until i reach a road)
Mr driver is happily doing the 30 limit along a nice clear road, sees the pedestrian walking along the road so slows to 20 incase the pedestrian decides he wants to cross.
at the last second the pedestrian decides he wants to cross the road, with the car 10 meters away from the crossing, and abruptly changes direction out onto the crossing.

now its about 2 meters that the jogger has to travel till he is right in the path of the car, plenty of time to get that distance before the car has had time to get there.

the pedestrian gets hit, who had right of way?
if there were witnesses, what would be said in court?
YES!! EXACTLY!

I honestly cannot understand some people's reasoning, WHY do they think they can just jump out in front of a moving car and still think they have right of way? Do they ACTUALLY do this in real life? are they that stupid? surely not!
 
AthlonTom said:
Agreed - but sometimes I just step out onto crossings just to **** off the twits who are driving to quick - they get an evil stare and everthing.

I've only been hit once.

see, i dont do this if they're close to the crossing cause i know you have to give them adequate stopping distance, so i work on the stopping distance for the limit that the road is...

so many times ive had to actually run out of the way from cars going in the opposite direction when i'm already on a crossing;

where the cars on my side of the road have already stopped so i start crossing and the drivers on the other side just belt straight across!
 
actually the more and more I read about people who have that view about crossing the road like that I think that they hardly ever leave their houses and thus would not know any better :p

as come on lets face it, this is the "overclockers" forum :p
 
VeNT said:
having only read the first page.........

ok
a) you arse, if your going to deck someone you wait till theres no-one looking
b) you where in the wrong IN THE FIRST INCIDENT. everything after this could be classed as "Agrovated".
and
c) I hate people like you. THE LAW STATES THAT YOU SHOULD STOP AT ZEBRA CROSSINGS, you should ALSO always drive AS IF YOU HAVE TO STOP EVEN IF THERE IS NO-ONE THERE YET.

I was out in town with my brother and his new baby boy a few days back and as we where crossing at a zebra crossing in town some PLANK like you drove across infront of us AS WE WHERE CROSSING.
people like you should never have been alowed to have a bleeding driving licence, you disgust me.

also, your thread tital says "HAD TO" you didn't HAVE to, you just lack the self control most of the rest of us have in place to stop us doing these things, maybe you should grow up.


Dude get a grip?.

a) I though calling someone 'you arse' was deemed a personal attack? (dare say i'm wrong though).
b) Like Gilly said, no, just no.
c) Complete rubbish. And if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread you would have seen that the OP was already halfway accross the zebra crossing.
d) With respect dude, what the hell are you doing pushing a new born baby accross a crossing untill pretty much any car within half a mile has stopped!. And what has this got to do with the OP's case?.


If it all happened as described by the OP then i'm totally behind him. I'm not a fighter by a long stretch, but that's just out of order, and the guy deserved a pasting.
 
Gilly said:
What would your correct form of comeback entail? Asking the guy his name and address? Perhaps letting him get away with it, reporting him to the police with a description and hoping they find him?

Yeah. Good luck with that.


ok,
first, report the incident to the police, tell them you just WATCHED somone damage your car and that they just went into B&Q, then go in and notify the staff, they will PROBABLY kick em out of the store, if they do this, watch what car they drive off in taking note of the reg number while looking for other witnesses. give all the info to the police when they arrive and tell them you want to press charges
 
SidewinderINC said:
where the cars on my side of the road have already stopped so i start crossing and the drivers on the other side just belt straight across!
You don't wait for the other carriageway to come to a halt first?

VeNT said:
ok,
first, report the incident to the police, tell them you just WATCHED somone damage your car and that they just went into B&Q, then go in and notify the staff, they will PROBABLY kick em out of the store, if they do this, watch what car they drive off in taking note of the reg number while looking for other witnesses. give all the info to the police when they arrive and tell them you want to press charges
How do you know they were on their way in? When I read it I thought I read that they were on their way out. I cba to go check.

How do you know they were in a car at all?
 
Cueball said:
Just to play devil's advocate here...

As a road user, I don't feel that I should be completely responsable for the ignorance of pedestrians. If some idiot wants to step out in front of traffic without looking, that is his call.

Safety is a 50-50 thing. As a road user, I am not responsable if some pedestrian isn't aware of their surroundings.

Incorrect. Pedestrians have right of way AT ALL TIMES - and because you are in a big metal thing that could kill them you ARE responsible if they step out in front of you.
 
Dublove said:
I was leaving the B&Q car park and i'm just about *** HALF WAY ***over the mini zebra crossing lines they have at about 5mph when this bloke and his wife come bombing out across not even looking. I stop with a blast on the horn as I would have hit the fool. They obviously stop and ***I CARRY ON.*** Anyway I glance in the rear view mirror to see this bloke rushing up after my car (i've only moved about 3/4 meter btw), the sod whips his keys out and keys my tailgate!!!

I went ballistic, slammed the the car to a stop flew out the door and punched him in the face till he went to the floor. His wife didnt' even squeek. There were other people about watching and one bloke said to me i'd have done the same what an *******.

Dunno what to do now, I need to get some chill pills. :mad:

My capitals and ***s.


I really do understand how angry one might become BUT ...

They are pedestrians with NO PROTECTION, you are sat in a nice warm ton of metal with all the safety aids known to man yet have the nerve to say that it's their problem for not looking!!!!

Yes, I agree! they are absolute ****s ..... but you should not CARRY ON as you stated but stop and let the stupid ****s go about their business.

Some drivers (posters) have a REAL problem about human wellfare/safety.
 
VeNT said:
ok,
first, report the incident to the police, tell them you just WATCHED somone damage your car and that they just went into B&Q, then go in and notify the staff, they will PROBABLY kick em out of the store, if they do this, watch what car they drive off in taking note of the reg number while looking for other witnesses. give all the info to the police when they arrive and tell them you want to press charges
*Thumbs up*
 
VeNT said:
ok,
first, report the incident to the police, tell them you just WATCHED somone damage your car and that they just went into B&Q, then go in and notify the staff, they will PROBABLY kick em out of the store, if they do this, watch what car they drive off in taking note of the reg number while looking for other witnesses. give all the info to the police when they arrive and tell them you want to press charges

Not disagreeing with what you are saying but merely adding to it - he could have made a citizens arrest for criminal damage insted.
 
Pinkeyes said:
Incorrect. Pedestrians have right of way AT ALL TIMES - and because you are in a big metal thing that could kill them you ARE responsible if they step out in front of you.
Prove it. I never read that in my highway code.

singist said:
They are pedestrians with NO PROTECTION, you are sat in a nice warm ton of metal with all the safety aids known to man yet have the nerve to say that it's their problem for not looking!!!!
Of course it is their problem! The situation would'nt have arisen in the gimp had been taking notice of what was happening around him.

singist said:
Yes, I agree! they are absolute ****s ..... but you should not CARRY ON as you stated but stop and let the stupid ****s go about their business.

Thats exactly what the OP did, at which point the aforementioned gimp decided to react to the OP doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATE HE SHOULD HAVE DONE by committing criminal damage to his property while the OP was present.

How on earth can you not see the huge holes in your statements?
 
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