Soldato
And population demise.
"Just stop oil"
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And population demise.
Caporegime
Population demise is the only way. We could reduce our emissions per capita by a third in 2100 but will still be more polluting than we are today due to the fact of having 10+ billion on the earth. Humans are like a virus to the earth really. Thanos was right. Lol
At least I will be long dead before 2100
So how did they get to the M25? they must have used some mode of transport!
How are they heating their homes and electric? seems they all have mobile phones I'm sure that's used oil to produce. ALL they have done is cause more pollution.
They want to make a change how about they go to India or China, that's right they wont because in the UK we are to soft. We are all aware of climate change and UK produces around 2% but they think getting up on a gantry will help.
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Caporegime
At least I will be long dead before 2100
Your grave will more than likely be under water too so you will literally be sleeping with the fishes
.I will be cremated and shot into deep spaceYour grave will more than likely be under water too so you will literally be sleeping with the fishes
Don't dig too deep!
Bunch of hypothetical idiots no doubt
Population decline will lead to collapse of society.
Hurry up and colonise the stars.
Soldato
It's not about NO oil, it's about no NEW oil.
Any new oil/gas licences will take years to come online, the "we need it now" argument is a fallacy. We can start benefitting from the following far quicker:
1) Insulate houses, set MUCH higher standards for new houses
2) Invest in public transport and encourage use, make it free funded by carbon taxes
3) Stop driving short journeys
4) Buy food with less "food miles"
5) Make energy costs tiered just like income tax
Most importantly implement a carbon dividend tax. Ring fence part of the revenue for renewables/insulation/public transport etc and pay back the rest as a equal dividend to everyone equally. Low users are rewarded, high users are encouraged to use less.
I'm prepared to bet that the campaigners all have a lower carbon footprint than the UK average.
I fully realise that China, the USA all produce carbon emissions that dwarf the UK, but we *all* need to act, waiting for "someone to do something" is simply not working.
The UK acts and our government puts pressure on other governments to act, carbon import duties, reward low carbon economies etc. We put sanctions on countries for human right violations, why not for helping to kill the planet?
No problem, we effectively eat gas. Without it and phosphorus/potash fertilisers well over half the world will starve. Phosphorus fertilisers are also environmentally damaging due to fossil fuels required to mine it and the over 80% waste it produces. The waste takes the form of impure, useless, radioactive solid called phosphogypsum.
This is just the population supported by gas, phosphorus and potash account for over half the grey section with most of the rest based on animal waste (which vegan's want to stop as a well).
Take all that out and even a 1 billion human population may be unsustainable.
Once all these limited resources run out, global warming will look like a mild event thinning the population before the main starvation event happens.
The only real solution is lowing the population, but you can't do that because it a "human right" to pop out endless sprogs.
fixes 1 problem causes a load more.No problem, we effectively eat gas. Without it and phosphorus/potash fertilisers well over half the world will starve. Phosphorus fertilisers are also environmentally damaging due to fossil fuels required to mine it and the over 80% waste it produces. The waste takes the form of impure, useless, radioactive solid called phosphogypsum.
This is just the population supported by gas, phosphorus and potash account for over half the grey section with most of the rest based on animal waste (which vegan's want to stop as a well).
Take all that out and even a 1 billion human population may be unsustainable.
Once all these limited resources run out, global warming will look like a mild event thinning the population before the main starvation event happens.
The only real solution is lowing the population, but you can't do that because it a "human right" to pop out endless sprogs.
Just watching this now and good lord yes...she comes across as completely brainwashed, she literally has the look of a cult member in her eyes. Shes got crazy look in her eyes throughout the interview frankly. I've long said that the tactics Just Stop Oil (and similar groups) use is completely counterproductive to what they are (supposedly) attempting to achieve, putting someone like her in front of a camera for an interview is simply another example of those poor tactics. She comes across as an absolute nut job, nobody will have been convinced by anything she said in the interview because she just seems insane.
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Insulated houses in the summer aren't fun
Caporegime
Especially if Climate change is only going to go one way. You will only need the heating on 3-4 months of the year tops. Everyone insulates their house and then reverse happens and we all get Aircon and cause even more pollution. Haha.
I was cutting the grass and cleaning up the leaves in a T-Shirt today and it is nearly middle of November!
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Soldato
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if everyone who can gets solar where it makes sense , electricity in summer should not be an issue should it?
Trying to find clip but couldnt, if anyone has please share.
Soldato
They also keep heat out! Then you can use energy efficient solar powered HVAC cooling!
The benefits of Insulation are very misunderstood!
Soldato
This loony?Trying to find clip but couldnt, if anyone has please share.
Just Stop Oil protester defends M25 disruption: 'Birds are falling out of the sky, pensioners are dying'
Campaigner Indigo Rumbelow, in a tense exchange with Sky News' Mark Austin, argues that protests causing widespread disruption should and will continue until the government issues a statement to stop new licences for oil and gas.