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Can you imagine how Hurricane Higgins would have reacted if this was his match that was interupted?
"Just stop oil"
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Never going to happen. People have been sucked into a cult and they're going to die of old age along with their grandkids and wish they were more productive with their life
Part of me wishes they'd spend their energy helping individuals and communities understand what they could do to live more sustainably while reducing GHG emissions.
I understand that they are trying to solicit large scale change by pressuring Government, but I don't think they've done enough, if anything, to get the 'every person' on side.
As noted throughout the thread, the general public perception seems to be that JSO are an inconvenience as opposed to a group whose views should be given consideration.
I understand that they are trying to solicit large scale change by pressuring Government, but I don't think they've done enough, if anything, to get the 'every person' on side.
As noted throughout the thread, the general public perception seems to be that JSO are an inconvenience as opposed to a group whose views should be given consideration.
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Agree, its very short sighted to be complaining about minor inconveniences in the short term. I'd love to see how opinions on Insulate Britain, for example, might have changed in recent times as the cost of energy really hits. They were 100% correct.
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They arent trying to get every person on board. They already know they dont give a **** due to the misinformation like the dross that is posted here about climate change and polution.
All they are doing is trying to get the government to follow the policies they claimed they wanted but have now gone back on them.
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Apologies, my opening line wasn't a dig at JSO, more my thoughts about how they could have more impact on public opinion.
I appreciate that many of the greener groups are coming from a place of trying to influence policy and large scale change, I'm just not sure that they've done enough to influence the general public, in a way which supports their goals.
Putting pressure on governments doesn't feel effective if the broad electorate aren't also on board.
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To be fair all they need to do is annoy the public enough to then start to make the government fall into line. This is not much different to the NHS strikes with the government complaining all these strikes are harmful to the NHS and its patience. All the blame is put on the strikers and not the terrible government that are inflicting all this terrible managment on the country.
Its not for protestors to explain anything to the public, they arent a teaching group but a protest group.
The problem here is people are making the protestors the villian while it really is the government. have people been a sleep for the last 13 years? The Tories are so far up the dirty energies holes they have tide marks at the ankles.
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Possibly asleep, possibly unaware, possibly apathetic. I don't know.
My initial post was worded poorly, but I was trying to impart that many people have little context for why the protestors do what they do.
Without that context it's unlikely to to help bring people on side.
In the grand scheme of things their disruption is minimal. The suffragettes had a taste for arson and causing terror (their words) and the passage of time has them held in a different light to what they were at the time.
The more extreme silly stunts they pull - the more the Government wont take them seriously (along with the general public) which I ant imagine is what they are looking for.
They are making the same mistake at Extinction Rebellion - annoying people to get their cause across is very counter productive.
They are making the same mistake at Extinction Rebellion - annoying people to get their cause across is very counter productive.
On a sidenote, its absolutely insane that 2 countries can have a total population of 2.8Billion.
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I hope Barry takes him to the cleaners
Have we got a source on the whole professional thing? I’ve been paid for a lot of things and appearances but never activism.
Well its only an anecdote, so I'm sure it will be easily dismissed but my neice is at Bristol University and during the BLM thing she (and some of her friends) were approached by a company who essentially do hire-a-protestor, and offered £150 to attend a weekend protest/march.
Obviously thats not JSO, its a different protest, but it does go to show that there are companies out there that do it, especially in terms of university students who a) usually have a need for the dosh and b) are already predisposed to be anti-government (and particularly anti-tory government)..makes them prime targets for those sorts of companies.
Just think, ten hours of a junior doctors wage for standing on a picket line holding a placard.
I’ve heard this so many times, but it’s never directly, it’s always “my friends friend friend” or some other cop out. No one can ever provide concrete proof of it being a real thing.