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on the Ethernet thing.

Is that running TCI/IP or UDP as the tranaport menchanism.

If it’s TCP then it’s error correcting and the data presented at the other end is guaranteed to be correct (ot not at all).
If it’s UDP then it’s not error correcting.

The digital signal being buffered before DAC reduces the impact of lost data etc.
If the ethernet is isolated, and the digital data is uncorrupted and buffered then there should be little audio impact if any.

It ia easy validaing the corruption - compare sending a know bitstream and ghe output.

It’s easy to isolate Ethernet (optical makes this even easier).

After which it’s just buffering the audio stream transported.
The entire UDP not error correcting thing only really matters if error correction is not present at a higher level such as application. No idea if this is the case here but essentially there's no reason why any app can't use UDP and still present the data with zero errors, it's just a case of where it happens in the stack.
 
I did think that the potential for “noise” from Ethernet or SPDIF was not because of changes or corruption of the data, rather spurious electrical voltage transmission similar to a ground loop as they are electrical connections?
 
I did think that the potential for “noise” from Ethernet or SPDIF was not because of changes or corruption of the data, rather spurious electrical voltage transmission similar to a ground loop as they are electrical connections?

I use a Delock 62619, it's a galvanic ethernet voltage isolator, there designed for hospitals, they don't do any re-clocking or buffering. However as a side effect they filter noise from the Ethernet.

I own two of these, one is in my HTPC on hifi, the other on my home office computer. In terms of audio they take some harshness away from the audio. The audio benefit is similar to the Russ Andrews Kimber power cables that also reduce noise due to their woven cable design.

This is the review of them on a German website

And before anyone starts saying it's a scam only for sales, these can be purchased for £15+postage if you google.


 
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Well they would be normal prices. They're not sold as anything other than a surge protector. They have technical specs for how good at surge protecting they are.

What they don't have are technical specs for alternative electrical and audio beliefs.
 
Well they would be normal prices. They're not sold as anything other than a surge protector. They have technical specs for how good at surge protecting they are.

What they don't have are technical specs for alternative electrical and audio beliefs.

That's correct, their not designed for anything audio.

However they have a side effect of removing EMI/RFI from entering the ethernet. The EMI/RFI is damaging especially for DAC's.
 
You will also need a very short ethernet cable, this plugs from the filter to your DAC/Streamer. Because the filter is galvanic, the signal from the output is weaker than say the output from a switch. Don't worry I tested mine for jitter and packet loss and nothing no issues when I tested. I also on-line game on my computer, and no issues whatsoever in lag.

I'm using some 0.3meter Amazon Basic Cat7's. Also the filter is not shielded, and I wrapped mine in aluminium kitchen foil. If you google 'audiophile delock 62619' there was someone who made a metal box for his, however I took the cheap option of wrapping mine in foil.

EDIT this is another thread on the Delock.

 
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The entire UDP not error correcting thing only really matters if error correction is not present at a higher level such as application. No idea if this is the case here but essentially there's no reason why any app can't use UDP and still present the data with zero errors, it's just a case of where it happens in the stack.

Yup. Simple OSI model, but simple if you absolutely need (akin to pulp fiction) to prove data integrity.
 
Let's find it if it actually does anything useful or it's just BS. At least it's been ordered mail order.
My expectation is that it will do best on long Ethernet runs and plugged directly into a motherboard. If you are using a shorter run, or use a network card or your device is networked to a nearby switch, I expect them to do very little. Network cards / switches / routers all have the same ethernet transformers these devices have so I wouldn't expect adding another would make any noticable difference unless the environment was  really noisy.
 
As an amateur, the things I can actually notice and hear a difference are speakers, a large difference in amplification, the room or position of gear in the room and the source - a poor recording sounds poor. The big variables, individuals hearing, the room.

I recently installed some Acupanels in an alcove behind my speakers LCR +sub. Mostly for aesthetics but was pleasantly surprised how it presumably reduced the reflections and made everything sound clearer, at least to my ears.
 
As an amateur, the things I can actually notice and hear a difference are speakers, a large difference in amplification, the room or position of gear in the room and the source - a poor recording sounds poor. The big variables, individuals hearing, the room.

I recently installed some Acupanels in an alcove behind my speakers LCR +sub. Mostly for aesthetics but was pleasantly surprised how it presumably reduced the reflections and made everything sound clearer, at least to my ears.

Couldn’t agree more. I have some GIK traps in the corners of my room to help reduce reflections.

Unfortunately we (mainly blokes) seem to have mostly forgotten that it’s OK to have a hobby or interest that might impinge on our other halves ideas of visual appeal.
I simply made a point that the stereo comes as part of the package…
 
Couldn’t agree more. I have some GIK traps in the corners of my room to help reduce reflections.

Unfortunately we (mainly blokes) seem to have mostly forgotten that it’s OK to have a hobby or interest that might impinge on our other halves ideas of visual appeal.
I simply made a point that the stereo comes as part of the package…
Luckily my wife enjoys films and now with a 5.1 set-up she appreciates the end result. She also really liked the Acupanels so that made it easy. Much harder cutting and fitting it!
 
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