Laser eye treatment - who's done it?

Hes probably back at LVC for the day after followup.



Which all went well not quite settled down to 20/20 year but can drive legally etc.


I'd currently describe the vision as the end of a long Dar or after wearing contacts a bit too long.

Can see but it takes a second to focus.

Brain and eye both getting used to having a new focal point and so muscle memory is all wrong
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L41-CqynUHE

This is the one I went for and yes you can definitely feel the scraping.

It's a bit misty but I can see and read a clock across the room it's weird

You just put me off for life! No way im having that done, i bet that women in the chair was paid a lot to be drugged up to the eye balls "literally" to show that it was painless cos i doubt it was.

Im still shaking from watching that video of the touching of the eye and them clamps damn man.

If you had this done, geez i feel for ya and i hope somehow it worked cos the scraping looks like it wouldnt work but mess u up more imo.
 
This is very interesting, a new "bionic implant" that replaces the existing lens on your eye giving you 3x the vision and perfect vision at all 3 ranges. The surgery for this takes just 8 minutes apparently and clinical trials are set to start with places like Canada that could see it being used in 2 years.

http://www.collective-evolution.com...that-will-give-you-superhuman-vision-forever/


No more contacts, no more cataracts, no more glasses, no more laser eye surgery. What a time we live in? :p

This has been doing the rounds for a while and I'm afraid it's a Kony Glass Road. Usually I'd post proof but I'm on mobile, sorry
 
You just put me off for life! No way im having that done, i bet that women in the chair was paid a lot to be drugged up to the eye balls "literally" to show that it was painless cos i doubt it was.

Im still shaking from watching that video of the touching of the eye and them clamps damn man.

If you had this done, geez i feel for ya and i hope somehow it worked cos the scraping looks like it wouldnt work but mess u up more imo.

It is painless, or it was for me anyway.

The tool they used is specially designed to do whats being done there, you cant see any of it either, you are aware hes doing something, but you cant see anything, and then the next thing you know is he pulls the little bit of skin out and bam, you can see.
 
Not so sure about Relex Smile surgery over Lasik...

"El-Naggar MT.
J Cataract Refract Surg. 2015 Apr;41(4):884-8

ReLEx: Possibly less corneal dryness, because less nerve fibers are disrupted.

LASIK: Can treat very small amounts of ametropia (even -0.50D). This is very difficult or not possible to do with ReLEx)

LASIK: Can do wavefront customized (whether corneal wavefront or whole eye wavefront guided) treatments. This is not possible with ReLEx

LASIK: Latest machines have both static and dynamic cyclotorsion control. This is, as far as I know, not available with ReLEx. Cyclotorsion control is especially important when performing astigmatism treatments and wavefront guided treatments.

LASIK: For high astigmatism, can have bitoric or other various ablation patterns to maximise optical zone. This is, as far as I know, not available with ReLEx, which corrects astigmatism with a simple toric lenticule cut and extraction.

LASIK: Can correct hyperopia up to +4D or so with good accuracy and predictability. This is not possible with ReLEx, which is used to treat myopia/shortsightedness and astigmatism only.

Regarding the points to cover,
LASIK is mature technology which is still being refined all the time. Many of the most important developments have already taken place ie advanced ablation profiles for most types of refractive errors, advanced (even predictive) eye tracking in 6 dimensions, fast laser pulse repetition rates, cyclotorsion control.

In contrast, ReLEx is still a procedure in evolution, with many issues which have already been addressed in LASIK still to be dealt with in ReLEx.

ReLex is slightly less invasive, in so far as no corneal flap is created and lifted. But this does bring some disadvantages as well, as described above.

If you define success by good visual acuity with good quality of vision, the chances of achieving this are better with LASIK because of cyclotorsion control (astigmatic correcting efficacy), because of the possibility of wavefront guided treatments with LASIK, and because ablation profiles are more versatile with LASIK.

Side effects wise, they will be quite similar, except for less dryness in the initial post operative period with ReLEx. When the eyes have healed in about 3 months time, I would expect no or minimal difference in eye dryness between LASIK or ReLEx. After surgery care should be the same as well.

Time of recovery
Visual recovery has been reported to take longer with ReLEx. ie after surgery, ReLEx patients experience blurry vision for a longer time compared to LASIK.

All in all, I think LASIK remains the gold standard for refractive correction. It is the most versatile method, the machines have enormous capability to customize treatments and to make sure the treatments occur as planned. ReLEx may have a place in refractive surgery, but at the moment, the claimed advantages of ReLEx cannot compare with the proven capabilities of LASIK."
 
You just put me off for life! No way im having that done, i bet that women in the chair was paid a lot to be drugged up to the eye balls "literally" to show that it was painless cos i doubt it was.

Im still shaking from watching that video of the touching of the eye and them clamps damn man.

If you had this done, geez i feel for ya and i hope somehow it worked cos the scraping looks like it wouldnt work but mess u up more imo.



I did have it done and seriously it doesn't hurt and you can't see what they're doing it looks from your perspective like he's just wiping your eye.

The scraping isn't really scraping it's just separating the layer they've cut.


You can still have the normal one with the flap if you prefer but this one does less damage to the eye
 
Not so sure about Relex Smile surgery over Lasik...

"El-Naggar MT.
J Cataract Refract Surg. 2015 Apr;41(4):884-8

ReLEx: Possibly less corneal dryness, because less nerve fibers are disrupted.

LASIK: Can treat very small amounts of ametropia (even -0.50D). This is very difficult or not possible to do with ReLEx)

LASIK: Can do wavefront customized (whether corneal wavefront or whole eye wavefront guided) treatments. This is not possible with ReLEx

LASIK: Latest machines have both static and dynamic cyclotorsion control. This is, as far as I know, not available with ReLEx. Cyclotorsion control is especially important when performing astigmatism treatments and wavefront guided treatments.

LASIK: For high astigmatism, can have bitoric or other various ablation patterns to maximise optical zone. This is, as far as I know, not available with ReLEx, which corrects astigmatism with a simple toric lenticule cut and extraction.

LASIK: Can correct hyperopia up to +4D or so with good accuracy and predictability. This is not possible with ReLEx, which is used to treat myopia/shortsightedness and astigmatism only.

Regarding the points to cover,
LASIK is mature technology which is still being refined all the time. Many of the most important developments have already taken place ie advanced ablation profiles for most types of refractive errors, advanced (even predictive) eye tracking in 6 dimensions, fast laser pulse repetition rates, cyclotorsion control.

In contrast, ReLEx is still a procedure in evolution, with many issues which have already been addressed in LASIK still to be dealt with in ReLEx.

ReLex is slightly less invasive, in so far as no corneal flap is created and lifted. But this does bring some disadvantages as well, as described above.

If you define success by good visual acuity with good quality of vision, the chances of achieving this are better with LASIK because of cyclotorsion control (astigmatic correcting efficacy), because of the possibility of wavefront guided treatments with LASIK, and because ablation profiles are more versatile with LASIK.

Side effects wise, they will be quite similar, except for less dryness in the initial post operative period with ReLEx. When the eyes have healed in about 3 months time, I would expect no or minimal difference in eye dryness between LASIK or ReLEx. After surgery care should be the same as well.

Time of recovery
Visual recovery has been reported to take longer with ReLEx. ie after surgery, ReLEx patients experience blurry vision for a longer time compared to LASIK.

All in all, I think LASIK remains the gold standard for refractive correction. It is the most versatile method, the machines have enormous capability to customize treatments and to make sure the treatments occur as planned. ReLEx may have a place in refractive surgery, but at the moment, the claimed advantages of ReLEx cannot compare with the proven capabilities of LASIK."



Why is every pont against relax paraphrased with "ad far a si know/am aware" doesn't sound like they've actually done the research.

But this is what most of the people at lvc have done and what the optometrist is planning on having done.


And they leave the choice purely up to you they say which they think will be best and then let you decide what you want done
 
Hard to know who to believe in all honesty, seems odd that there are such conflicting views.

I was all for relex smile before I read articles like that.

How's things today, still improving?

Have you noticed any degradation in your near sight? Personally, being shortsighted, I find my close up sight to be above average and imagine that in correcting my vision at distance, I would see worse up close. (Much like when weaing contact lenses I cannot see as well for close up detail).
 
I'd advise against watching youtube videos if you're considering getting laser eye surgery.

What possible benefit can there be?

If I'm to have root canal surgery do I really want to know the procedure in minute detail? No way!

I spend hours watching you tube on all sorts or subjects but when waiting for my appointment, watching the procedure on telly was the last thing I wanted.

I just turned up did what I was told and let them get on with it.

Scariest bit for me was when he swung me under the machine, didn't expect that! I saw it beside me and expected it to be brought over me.
 
Hard to know who to believe in all honesty, seems odd that there are such conflicting views.

I was all for relex smile before I read articles like that.

How's things today, still improving?

Have you noticed any degradation in your near sight? Personally, being shortsighted, I find my close up sight to be above average and imagine that in correcting my vision at distance, I would see worse up close. (Much like when weaing contact lenses I cannot see as well for close up detail).


I never used to bother taking my glasses off for up close work so there's not much difference the biggest thing I'm noticing is a slight delay for want of a better word of things conning I to focus at all ranges but getting better each day.

what's best will depend upon you're eyes they're getting paid regardless so they aren't pushing one or they other they want you walking away happy and not coming back for a free et ouch up treatment.

I'd advise against watching youtube videos if you're considering getting laser eye surgery.

What possible benefit can there be?

If I'm to have root canal surgery do I really want to know the procedure in minute detail? No way!

I spend hours watching you tube on all sorts or subjects but when waiting for my appointment, watching the procedure on telly was the last thing I wanted.

I just turned up did what I was told and let them get on with it.

Scariest bit for me was when he swung me under the machine, didn't expect that! I saw it beside me and expected it to be brought over me.


Oh yeah same I didn't watch the video till after I had it done lok
 
I never used to bother taking my glasses off for up close work so there's not much difference the biggest thing I'm noticing is a slight delay for want of a better word of things conning I to focus at all ranges but getting better each day.

Wait until your eye muscles get used to the clarity, it's spooky how you'll be just glancing at things at different ranges and they'll be snapping into focus :)
 
I'd advise against watching youtube videos if you're considering getting laser eye surgery.

What possible benefit can there be?

If I'm to have root canal surgery do I really want to know the procedure in minute detail? No way!

I spend hours watching you tube on all sorts or subjects but when waiting for my appointment, watching the procedure on telly was the last thing I wanted.

I just turned up did what I was told and let them get on with it.

Scariest bit for me was when he swung me under the machine, didn't expect that! I saw it beside me and expected it to be brought over me.

Some people are soooo squeamish! :p

This sort of thing doesn't bother me a bit. (I thoroughly enjoyed the "Von Hagens" exhibition when it came to London)

Watching my procedure before I had it was fascinating (Phaco +i-stent) and helped me to prepare for what was to come.

As a result I was a calm and confident patient, able to ask pertinent questions and understand the answers.
 
Some people are soooo squeamish! :p

This sort of thing doesn't bother me a bit. (I thoroughly enjoyed the "Von Hagens" exhibition when it came to London)

Watching my procedure before I had it was fascinating (Phaco +i-stent) and helped me to prepare for what was to come.

As a result I was a calm and confident patient, able to ask pertinent questions and understand the answers.


Sounds like you needed to psyche yourself up, hope all your preparation inspired confidence and enabled you to ask lots of questions :) Oh and understand the answers :p

Just because someone doesn't fancy watching a graphic video of the surgery about to be performed on them doesn't render them a clueless idiot. We're still capable of asking questions.

As for being a confident patient, who confidently walks into an eye clinic to have their eyes sliced open? I wasn't confident, I was fine right up until the day but when I walked in the place I was bricking it, thinking "What on earth am I doing?" But I'd made the decision, put my faith in the people doing it, did what I was told and let them get on with it.

Whether you're the type of person who soils your pants then gets on it with or you're the type of person who needs to know the ins and outs of a gnats backside to induce a feeling of having some control, having this procedure is taking a calculated risk with your eyesight.

Stop pretending it didn't bother you when quite clearly it did.
 
Well I had my first appointment and screenings at LVC today. Went very well, very nice place and nice staff. I think they even won over my girlfriend too. I'm suitable for the standard LASIK, although there was a moment when the care coordinator suggested due to my prescription it may be the more expensive version which worried me a bit! Better still the optometrist/opthalmist said I don't have dry eyes at all which was one of my worries. Rather the reverse - in that my eyes produce a huge amount of tears :sadface: :p

Just Gotta read over the new paperwork, sign my life away and I'm booked in for two weeks time!
 
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