LG 42-inch OLED

Evo isnt the panel though, EX are the new panels? So no misleading if LG sell you an EVO tv with the old panel.

Not cricket though. Especially if people are reading reviews on the new panel.
 
smeemi said:
Questionable. Have they even defined what 'evo' means.
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Problem is they have not really. This chap has a good post really on it on AVS. EX is the term LGD have gone onto use for WBC panels. However LG Display seems to use the EVO term linked to the underlying processor and algorithms. The EVO term does not seem to translate directly to the EX term they are marketing speak terms more then anything: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/2022-lg-c2-g2-owners-thread-no-price-talk.3236262/page-29

New24K said:
So do ALL G2 models have the newest EX panel...?

And the C2 is, for now, a mix of EX and the "older" panels...?
The problem with your question is that Evo is whatever LGE wants it to be and EX is (almost) whatever LGD wants it to be.
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We already know that LGE has stated that all C2s will contain Evo panels but that the smaller-sized C2s will not achieve the same brightness as the larger sized C2s.

I believe they even have some term for that in the specs to differentiate between the basic Evo brightness w/o heat sink, the the increased Evo brightness with heatsink, and the deficient brightness of the ‘smaller’ panels.

And now I believe we have confirmation of a 42C2 containing a WBC panel. So it seems a 42” panel can be an Evo panel even if it is being manufactured with the old WBC stack which will soon be out of production…

So Evo really amounts to nothing more than some new firmware tied to whichever underlying panel LGD puts into the Evo-enabled TV.

EX probably has more underlying substance (in the hardware sense). I have a hard time seeing LGD sell any older WBC 3S3C panel as an EX panel (since it has no deuterium).

But LGE makes no reference to EX - merely to ‘most advanced OLED panels.’

I believe it is a pretty safe bet that all G2s will contain newer WBE:3S4C panels (like the G1 last year) but anyone purchasing a 42G2 (if any such product exists) should probably be cautious.

We already know the 42C2 may contain an older WBC/3S3C panel but I’m pretty confident all 55C2s and larger will be based on the newer WBE/3S4C panel (no idea about 48”).

I prefer the terms WBE or 3S4C (or even ‘Deuterium-based’ or ‘higher-efficiency’ to EX or Evo because those are quantitative / definitive compared to the marketing terms Evo or EX whose definition can change at the whim of the supplier.

So with all that background out of the way, I’d be shocked if anyone purchasing a 55G2 or larger ends up with a panel that does not contain deuterium…
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Sent an email to RS with pictures showing red tint and literally 4 minutes later they called me saying that it looks faulty and that they are sending me a replacement tomorrow and will collect the faulty one.
Can’t complain really.
Honestly couldn’t care less whether I get WBE or WBC panel as long as it’s nice and uniform.
 
gpuerrilla said:
if people are sharing how to spot issues and its deemed misleading advertising I wonder what the vendors are doing? Unless this is quite common with displays/TV's.
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This is the issue - OLED users are putting their purchases under insane levels of scrutiny. This thread, and others and especially the Reddit group, are absolutely full of people taking a magnifying glass to 5% grey images and test videos. Firstly there's a lot of misinformation or people connecting up separate facts as empirical logic, secondly it's just excessive. Last time you bought a car did you run a decibel meter and take it to be put on a dyno? Or did you drive it and enjoy the product?

I work in the industry and test TVs before release (software not panels) and it's quite concerning this phenomenon of people dissecting their OLEDs. I get that you want a good panel but it's a little unhealthy when people are jumping to conclusions about ordinary manufacturing variations. I don't see anywhere near this level of attention paid to other TVs.
 
LuckyBenski said:
This is the issue - OLED users are putting their purchases under insane levels of scrutiny. This thread, and others and especially the Reddit group, are absolutely full of people taking a magnifying glass to 5% grey images and test videos. Firstly there's a lot of misinformation or people connecting up separate facts as empirical logic, secondly it's just excessive. Last time you bought a car did you run a decibel meter and take it to be put on a dyno? Or did you drive it and enjoy the product?

I work in the industry and test TVs before release (software not panels) and it's quite concerning this phenomenon of people dissecting their OLEDs. I get that you want a good panel but it's a little unhealthy when people are jumping to conclusions about ordinary manufacturing variations. I don't see anywhere near this level of attention paid to other TVs.
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Totally agree. I bought a pixel 6 last year and if you went into that thread you would see how deep people go into a phone's features. Whilst some are unacceptable like handling phone calls, you get people expecting a pro grade camera or some stretched expectation.

What I glean from this is there will be tons of RMA units and I am wondering where they all go. I would quite happily pay discount for a unit knowing its covered especially if LG say it within spec just not perfect for example. Has to be cleared up though. I am interested in the 48" older models if they do the job too which is why these threads are good regarding research.
 
LuckyBenski said:
This is the issue - OLED users are putting their purchases under insane levels of scrutiny. This thread, and others and especially the Reddit group, are absolutely full of people taking a magnifying glass to 5% grey images and test videos. Firstly there's a lot of misinformation or people connecting up separate facts as empirical logic, secondly it's just excessive. Last time you bought a car did you run a decibel meter and take it to be put on a dyno? Or did you drive it and enjoy the product?

I work in the industry and test TVs before release (software not panels) and it's quite concerning this phenomenon of people dissecting their OLEDs. I get that you want a good panel but it's a little unhealthy when people are jumping to conclusions about ordinary manufacturing variations. I don't see anywhere near this level of attention paid to other TVs.
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I don’t know sir I’ve got 3 oled TVs in my flat now and while none of them is perfect this one is by far the worst.
Those are premium TVs and £1400 for a 42” TV is a lot of money so you absolutely should look for faults while the exchange window is open.
Saying that I didn’t (yet) look for one and noticed it while playing Tomb Raider at night.
Also not everyone is sensitive to those things to same level and what’s obvious to one my not even be noticeable to others.
 
gpuerrilla said:
What I glean from this is there will be tons of RMA units and I am wondering where they all go. I would quite happily pay discount for a unit knowing its covered especially if LG say it within spec just not perfect for example. Has to be cleared up though. I am interested in the 48" older models if they do the job too which is why these threads are good regarding research.
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This is interesting. Ironically most of my electronics purchases are second hand because you sort of know the quality of the product if it's in good condition, easy way to get nice stuff cheap. But I'd be a little bit less comfortable buying an OLED used. Personally though I've either been very lucky or I just can't see any issues in the TVs I've had via work. Got my CX 2 years ago now so I must have 3000-4000 hours on it easily.
 
z10m said:
I don’t know sir I’ve got 3 oled TVs in my flat now and while none of them is perfect this one is by far the worst.
Those are premium TVs and £1400 for a 42” TV is a lot of money so you absolutely should look for faults while the exchange window is open.
Saying that I didn’t (yet) look for one and noticed it while playing Tomb Raider at night.
Also not everyone is sensitive to those things to same level and what’s obvious to one my not even be noticeable to others.
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Yes the increasing price premium on smaller models (costing more than the next model up is totally bonkers!) raises the stakes for this. OLED is already the best TV you can buy in a way, and then buying their unicorn product you certainly do expect the best quality control.
 
z10m said:
Sent an email to RS with pictures showing red tint and literally 4 minutes later they called me saying that it looks faulty and that they are sending me a replacement tomorrow and will collect the faulty one.
Can’t complain really.
Honestly couldn’t care less whether I get WBE or WBC panel as long as it’s nice and uniform.
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Nice good to hear your getting a replacement quick with no real fuss, though looking at pics evident something was up, more so if you see it during normal use. No doubt next one will be all good :)

Agree on last part, important bit for me too, have a good panel then could care less what is behind it. Thats enough for me to go off and enjoy content and blow up enemies (or rather see "you have died" screen) in Elden ring :D
 
Yep fingers crossed this one will be better or I will be devastated lol. Really don’t want to go trough exchange again and RS probably wouldn’t be very happy either as so far they’ve been very nice to me.
 
z10m said:
Sent an email to RS with pictures showing red tint and literally 4 minutes later they called me saying that it looks faulty and that they are sending me a replacement tomorrow and will collect the faulty one.
Can’t complain really. Honestly couldn’t care less whether I get WBE or WBC panel as long as it’s nice and uniform.
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I'm glad you got a replacement:) Maybe RS had a few fault panels and they called you quickie or RS have a good customer service!;)
 
Sc00p007 said:
Booo! I like it on my friends c1. All the Del AW hype is sucking me into the screen game again. Got one on order now I'm starting to lean towards the 42c2. Really torn on this one and reluctant to buy both and return one.
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LG ignore BFI even when it's a critical feature especially for gaming and this downgrade would be swept under the rug. Also they do not want PC users to buy this display for PC use! It's like all the marketing hype around the 48CX for gaming just to get gamers in OLED.
 
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whitestar85 said:
Does this TV have a ultrawide mode built in like was suggested/rumoured
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Why would anyone need a mode like that.?
Just create custom resolution that’s ultrawide in your graphics card control panel and use GPU scaling.
You can do super ultrawide if you want to.
 
I guess it would make it easier for some but it’s something you can do already on previous TVs using GPU settings.
 
z10m said:
I guess it would make it easier for some but it’s something you can do already on previous TVs using GPU settings.
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This is the biggest selling point of 2022 models vs previous for me. Sure I could put other methods in place but it's much better if it's available by design. There's plenty I could already do but I want convenience, this is a leisure product :)
 
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