Costco seem to be the best bet if you’re worried about burn in.
LG 48CX OLED - 4K 120 Hz
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If people are worried about burn in rtings did some testing and left the screens on for a year or something, you can watch the vids on youtube. There are burn in issues but these have been put through serious stress tests of being on 20 hours a day. Also to note these are previous models.
Here is a test by Vincent who has done it in a manner more accurate with how it would be used and has no burn in at all.
Here is a test by Vincent who has done it in a manner more accurate with how it would be used and has no burn in at all.
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As I said earlier, its all down to the economics of making the OLED small enough for 40" TVs unless you dont want 4k?
It costs a lot more to make a panel 40" with the size of pixels it needs for 4k than it does to make a 55" panel. So then you get the problem that manufacturers will want £2000 for the 40" and £1200 for the 55" and the 40" TVs then wont sell.
40" OLED Tvs will come but the price of the panels need to drop first.
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oh I see the smaller the OLED pixels the higher the manufacturing cost, yeah that does kind of explain why unfortunately
Sadly that is reality. They can make them that small (and even smaller, just look at mobiles and pads with 4k oled screens) but it definitely comes at a much higher cost per square meter than 55"+ panels.
And since atm they are trying to desperately ramp up the factories and build new ones just to satisfy the demand in 55"+ panels, there really isnt much incentive to produce 40" or smaller panels for a smaller marker and less profit.
OLED is a massive boon to the TV industry atm and even though it had high R&D costs, the profit per panel is way more than they were getting with LCD TVs.
How does that work when you have 1440P 120hz OLED screens which are 6" in size and cost very little to manufacture in the grand scheme of things? Sure they are less pixels on the panel but the pixel size is tiny by comparison.
It's just all about the profit they can extract from the market, the margins on OLED are very healthy compared to LCD and people are more willing to drop a wedge on a bigger TV than a smaller one. In reality very few people buy small TV's let alone very high end ones with the market being flooded with £300-£400 55" 4k LCD TV's from China.
While they have the competitive advantage on the tech there is little incentive to produce a product not many people will buy to take a smaller margin on it. As soon as OLED becomes a commodity like LCD is now then we'll see very cheap panels at all sizes and we are not that far away.
It's just all about the profit they can extract from the market, the margins on OLED are very healthy compared to LCD and people are more willing to drop a wedge on a bigger TV than a smaller one. In reality very few people buy small TV's let alone very high end ones with the market being flooded with £300-£400 55" 4k LCD TV's from China.
While they have the competitive advantage on the tech there is little incentive to produce a product not many people will buy to take a smaller margin on it. As soon as OLED becomes a commodity like LCD is now then we'll see very cheap panels at all sizes and we are not that far away.
there are indeed tiny pixel size but the panel is only 6". From memory i think it only costs $20 to make a phone panel. But mutliply that up to a 40" panel and suddenly it costs you $760 to make that panel whereas a 55" larger dot pitch panel may only cost you $200 to $300 to make.
Plus they spent money it developing the small screen size and getting the unit cost down because the market is so huge. You are right to a degree that the reason 4k 40" panels cost more than 55" panels is nobody has spent the time and money in refining the process to produce the pixels small enough to make screens that size cheaply as the market for 40" just isnt big enough.
Strangely its going to be the growth of 8k OLED panels which will bring cheap OLED 32" and 40" screens to the market as in order to make normal ish sized 55" and 65" 8k panels, that dot pitch will nicely fit in to making 4k 32" and 40" panels.
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Didn't realise they now do an 88" OLED, I wouldn't recommend looking at the price though 
Didn't realise they now do an 88" OLED, I wouldn't recommend looking at the price though
That must be a thing of beauty.
OLED =/= OLED
The manufacturing and display types for oleds in tvs are different than in phones. That's why you don't see Samsung OLEDs in TVs (they tried and crashed and burned), but you do see LG OLEDs in TVs (the only ones in fact). That's also why LG's OLEDs for phones are ****** and strictly inferior to Samsung's (P-OLED vs AMOLED) but also they're not the same as what they have in TVs (WOLED). Pixel density does play a part, which is also why 8K is more expensive and rarer, but it's not the main determining factor.
One thing people forget to keep as context, things don't scale linearly, and this applies to everything.
Yeah and supports 120Hz at 8k as well. Not that we have a PC capable of driving that yet and it might be a bit near on your desktop
Yeah and supports 120Hz at 8k as well. Not that we have a PC capable of driving that yet and it might be a bit near on your desktop
Soooon. Actually the upcoming 3080 ti won't do too bad even at 8K. If you go for some older games that still support SLI you could see that 8K >60fps action. Already picturing Witcher 3 goodness or DXMD... Plus, all the new games that are heavily reliant on TAA solution don't scale that great with extra resolution past 4k anyway.
Good news is a screen like that could very realistically be quite affordable within the next decade.
8k > 60fps will not be possible even for older games on 3080ti SLI, too many pixels.
yep it’s like 4 times the pixels of 4K so you will need a gfx card which can run the game in question at 240hz and 4K. 3080ti sli wouldn5 give that even if the 3080ti was twice as powerful as the 2080ti
suspect we will be wat8ng for the 5080ti or 6080ti and sli for us to achieve that. Plus ideally you really want to run at 120hz not just 60hz so make that the 7080ti in sli
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Couldn't be less bothered about 8K, especially for TV, the amount of content at 4k is pitiful with Sky still charging you for 1080P, lol. Broadcasters need to catch up before bringing another pointless upgrade out, I'd rather have higher refresh than more pixels I can't see unless I'm face planting it.
TV manufacturers always have to keep offering something (better) or new otherwise nobody would buy a new TV.
I mean I currently love my 4k TV and it works but I still want a OLED 4k TV and then I will want a 8k one when they get affordable.
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I totally agree, just offer something with a point to it within the next five years.
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^^ This all day long. All these 4k TV's and barely any 4k content. Some free - most not available unless you pay extra. ITV catchup still in SD!!! No wonder 'invite only' torrent sites do so well.
COVID 19 has shown one thing well, that big companies are paid for by the small person via tax in gov bailouts. So big and successful - no wait - the few rich investors scalp the profit off each year out of the company - until something like CV-19 happens - oh no money in the coffers for hiccups. Like Branson and his billions applying for furlough. The ruse that is modern capitalism is out for all to see.
Sorry, a tangent rant!