LG 48CX OLED - 4K 120 Hz

Productivity or gaming perspective is a good question, I was more discussing in terms of gaming but productivity does change things possibly although I don't do my work on the 48cx I do double it up with multiple browser windows or Ytube screens sometimes while researching hardware/tech on forums and ytube site and it's actually good for that simply due to the extra real estate screen space, so gut instincts say if you are doing productivity and for work purposes the 48cx or 55cx may help out you more.

3 metres is good, I am roughly 3 metres for watching films and its nice you are not too far away and not too close, so you can enjoy the sharp detail and enjoy blacks, colours and viewing angle much better.

If you can wait for sure its worth it, might get lucky with some better discounts down the road.

I think Curries still has the better stock for 48CX due to their LG promo deal and partnership in the past, they also have an excellent automated booking system over the phone when booking in and sorting out repairs on LG OLEDs as in they don't mess customers around too much, sadly not as good as JLs D&G burn proof insurance, I like peace of mind though but burn in should be almost a myth at this point.
Thanks R3X. Yeah, I think I'll do the same and get it from JL when they have some stock.


1. The CX is too new for people to have much experience with burn in. It takes a couple years before burn in starts to show up. This model has a lot of anti burn in tricks, and hopefully it's improved enough over prior models that we will have less problems. But we won't know for sure until a couple years at least. I recommend waiting for John Lewis to go in stock and get the 5 year protect plus, which covers burn in, if you're going to use it for productivity work.

2. Yes, take precautions against burn in. Use dark mode in your browser, auto hide your task bar and use transparent mods to make it invisible. Changing contrast doesn't do anything to help, however reducing luminence (OLED brightness setting) will. For SDR content it is far too bright anyways out of the box - I set it anywhere from 20-30 without an issue. Apart from those things you should be good. Brightness of 28 is 100 cd/m, 36 is 120 I believe, so plenty bright in my opinion.

3. Text sharpness is 92 PPI for 48". If you want to use it as a PC monitor do not go bigger than 48, because a PPI below 90 is pretty horrible (if you ever used a 27" 1080p monitors you know what it is like). 1440p 27" will have higher PPI and so text will look sharper (and smaller) in comparison. The 48CX is basically the same as a 24" 1080p in terms of fonts. I think that it is fine, although I would like it if the screen was a bit smaller (e.g. 42") with higher PPI.

4. The main con I think for productivity usage is the glossy screen. It's nowhere as bad as the old Apple cinema displays, but if your room is very bright it will be annoying I think. You can crank up the brigthness to combat it.

5. It's very important you get 4:4:4 chroma so fonts look good. That means on a 2080 you will have to run at 60Hz. Only nvidia 3000 series supports 4:4:4 at 120hz using HDMI 2.1.

6,. Your 2080 will work at 120hz in games but the chroma reduction will cause color issues. What people do successfully is just run at a lower res like 1440p so you get full chroma. The LG has excellent scaling so it should look good still. Then save up for a 3000 series.

I'll reiterate that getting a 55" for productivity/PC monitor use would be a huge mistake in my opinion. Only get that size if you're just going to be gaming or watching content on it. The PPI is just too low. The 48" is perfect for it since the PPI means you can sit about 60-80cm and it's perfectly usable. It's like having 3 30" monitors in portrait mode next to each other.

I think the LG is amazing and you won't regret it.
Thanks nvars, I'll comment on your points in order:
1. That's a good point about the CX being too new to tell about an real and widespread burn in issues - I'll definitely buy it from JL and pay the extra for the insurance.
2. Thanks for letting me know about your settings around brightness.
3. On the text sharpness front, for the last 8 months while working from home (aside from a month or so between 2 G9's that I returned due to issues), I've sadly been making do with a 32" 1080p screen (~68 PPI), so I definitely hear you on the PPI front. If I went for the 55" then I'd put it on the wall so, given some room for mounting, it would be around 1.1m away from me (35cm further away than my 32" screen sits from me), so the effective PPI would be a significant step up vs the 32". If I got the 48" then I'd put it as far back on the desk as the stand will allow (so it will be about 85cm away from my eyes - 10cm further back than the 32"). My reasoning for not putting the 48" on the wall is that I think the text would get too small if I put it on the wall, either that or I'd need to increase zoom and lose real estate. Alright, so I just ran some calculations and the maths reveals something surprising; the effective PPI of the 55" on the wall at 1.1m away is better than the 48" on the desk at 85cm away. Based on that, I think whether or not I go for the 55" or 48" may come down to cost - although I am concerned about where I'd put my speakers if I get the 55" (I don't want to raise the 55" up since that my cause neck strain - meh, I'd figure it out).
4. My room is a touch bright first thing in the morning, but not so bad after that, so the glossy screen is a little concerning. As you say though, I could raise the brightness when I need to and if I do get screen burn (which hopefully I don't, since I'd want to be careful with it), I can make use the the insurance if it becomes an issue.
5&6. I hate chroma subsampling so I'd definitely make sure I run 4:4:4 at all times. Just as you suggest, for productivity I'd run 4k@60Hz, but for games, I'd planned to run it at 1440p@120Hz on my 2080 anyway. At some point around the beginning of next year, I'll look at either getting a 3080 or 6800XT (since I could swap out my 3950X for a 5950X and get an added performance boost with the 6800XT, whether I'll bother swapping out the 3950X remains to be seen though).
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfl3UdWZIUQ

"LG CX & C9 Unlikely to Get Fix for VRR Gamma Issue Caused by OLED Panel"

How big of an issue is this. Is the near black gamma shifting noticeable in regular use?
From what I understand, it manifests itself as raised black levels in lower frame rates (the further away from 120Hz, the higher the black levels). It can't be that bad though, otherwise everyone would notice it and be up in arms about it. I'm guessing the issue is subtle and therefore nothing too major.

The one that I'm more concerned about is that I've just been reading that some people are complaining of micro-stutter on RTX3000 cards when at 4k@120Hz with VRR on in the 110-120FPS range. Has anyone noticed that and has it been fixed by the latest firmware?
 
I'm not that happy with the Sanus stand. It doesn't put the LG far back enough. I think what I want is a pole stand that can clamp onto the back of my desk. Does anyone have any ideas of ones that can support the weight? I don't want a monitor arm like the Ergotron HX because it won't let me get as far back as I'd like. Basically what you see in this video is what I'd like: https://youtu.be/Z60rsm4qJGo?t=629. Can't find anything on amazon like that.

Edit: Okay, I moved the rubber feet on the back about 3cm forward and that helped a bit, so I could overhang the stand on the end of my desk. Seems stable and the back of the TV is now flush w/ the back of my desk. Not sure I can do better than this (I have a standing desk so can't wall mount).
 
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I'm not that happy with the Sanus stand. It doesn't put the LG far back enough. I think what I want is a pole stand that can clamp onto the back of my desk. Does anyone have any ideas of ones that can support the weight? I don't want a monitor arm like the Ergotron HX because it won't let me get as far back as I'd like. Basically what you see in this video is what I'd like: https://youtu.be/Z60rsm4qJGo?t=629. Can't find anything on amazon like that.

Edit: Okay, I moved the rubber feet on the back about 3cm forward and that helped a bit, so I could overhang the stand on the end of my desk. Seems stable and the back of the TV is now flush w/ the back of my desk. Not sure I can do better than this (I have a standing desk so can't wall mount).
I'm not that happy with the Sanus stand. It doesn't put the LG far back enough. I think what I want is a pole stand that can clamp onto the back of my desk. Does anyone have any ideas of ones that can support the weight? I don't want a monitor arm like the Ergotron HX because it won't let me get as far back as I'd like. Basically what you see in this video is what I'd like: https://youtu.be/Z60rsm4qJGo?t=629. Can't find anything on amazon like that.

Edit: Okay, I moved the rubber feet on the back about 3cm forward and that helped a bit, so I could overhang the stand on the end of my desk. Seems stable and the back of the TV is now flush w/ the back of my desk. Not sure I can do better than this (I have a standing desk so can't wall mount).

This is the stand he is using in the video.

https://vivo-us.com/products/stand-v155c
 
It's weird, everyone talks about burn in, but nobody has mentioned once you get it, if the TV is still usable or if it's really distracting? For example, I have a really old professional 32" here. It has lost some brightness since 2010, but we still use it to browse etc..
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/ixhp2b/lg_cx_gamingpc_monitor_bug_megathread/

I'm still really on the fence about buying a CX when it comes back into stock after doing a lot of reading online (e.g. see thread above). I'm glad they've fixed the 4:2:0 subsampling issue, and a lot of people are fairly clear the image quality when everything works is simply stunning. But at the same time, there are some very detailed reviews and posts about issues that are allegedly unfixable, to do with gamma shift, flickering, raised blacks, VRR, etc.
 
I'm in the same boat. Ever since the C9's came out with hdmi 2.1 Ive been eagerly awaiting the new gpu's with hdmi 2.1 so that I could get an LG oled as the ultimate monitor; 4k 120hz vrr with perfect contrast, amazing blacks etc.

I've just had shipping confirmation of my 3080 and I was all ready to pull the trigger on the CX on Black Friday to complete my ultimate gaming set up. But now with things such as the gamma issues, raised black levels, flickering at high refresh rate, I am thinking, Is it too early for this tech? These tv's have effectively been designed with the new gpu's and consoles in mind but only now are these actually available so that the full feature set of these tv's can be properly tested by a large number of users.

So really it is not surprising that there are some issues. I don't mind small things that can be fixed with firmware, but some of these issues, however minor they might be to some, are issues that cannot be fixed with firmware and will be there to stay. Even if they are minor issues, they still effect the ultimate experience, which is what I was hoping to get with this TV. So I'm thinking, I've waited this long, should I just wait til next year's iteration of the LG oled that will hopefully iron out all of these problems? My head says this is the sensible thing to do but my inner child wants his new toy Now!
 
Same fence here. I have released the safety catch multiple times, but I simply can't pull the trigger. I was planning to buy a 3080 or similar AMD card along with the CX too. It's just too much money to spend on something that potentially has issues. On the other hand, if there is a price drop on BF, I may get one just to satisfy my curiosity. I can always return it.
 
Even if they are minor issues, they still effect the ultimate experience, which is what I was hoping to get with this TV. So I'm thinking, I've waited this long, should I just wait til next year's iteration of the LG oled that will hopefully iron out all of these problems? My head says this is the sensible thing to do but my inner child wants his new toy Now!

You've summarised my thoughts exactly. I'm content to wait for the 3080Ti or benchmarks on the 6900XT because I am not happy with the 10GB of VRAM on the 3080. So in the meantime I figured I'd at least get the CX to enjoy with my current RTX 3080 at 4K 60hz or 1440p@120hz. But perhaps it's not the right time.
 
Has anybody in this thread attempted to return the CX to either JL or Currys having decided it wasn't for them? I.e. within the DSR period?

Would be interesting to know how much of a fuss either retailer kicks up.
 
I think you
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/ixhp2b/lg_cx_gamingpc_monitor_bug_megathread/

I'm still really on the fence about buying a CX when it comes back into stock after doing a lot of reading online (e.g. see thread above). I'm glad they've fixed the 4:2:0 subsampling issue, and a lot of people are fairly clear the image quality when everything works is simply stunning. But at the same time, there are some very detailed reviews and posts about issues that are allegedly unfixable, to do with gamma shift, flickering, raised blacks, VRR, etc.

It definitely has some issues. But I'd say most of these are very minor and not noticeable (like the Dolby Vision raised blacks that I have never noticed in actual usage, but I guess I will look out for it now lol). I think you'll be hard pressed to find a flawless monitor or TV anywhere if ever. These LG flagship TVs are super complex and software bugs are unfortunately going to happen. At least LG is actively looking into them and making firmware releases, which they never do for any issues on their gaming monitors. So we know LG actually provides support for these, so eventually the issues will get sorted.

The only problem I've had in my 1 week of ownership is the G-sync set up is incredibly finicky. There is a specific trick you have to do to get gsync working without stuttering or input lag. Yes it's stupid, but they are also promising to fix these issues in the next firmware update. Apart from the workarounds, the TV is simply phenomenal and gaming in HDR on it is amazing.
 
In case it's not widely known, you can fix the g-sync stuttering / input lag like so:

1. Make sure v-sync is enabled in NVCP.
2. Cap your frame rate to 118 in NVCP (not required but it eliminates all input lag)
3. Go into G-sync in NVCP. Uncheck the gsync box and hit apply. Then enable g-sync again, make sure "enable settings for selected display" is also checked, and hit apply.
4. Now uncheck "enable settings for selected display" and hit apply.

Now run your game, and show monitor info (press the green button rapidly on the TV remote), and you can confirm it is running VRR. Repeat step 3/4 every time you turn the monitor on.

Yes this is insane, but it basically makes gaming smooth and fixes stuttering. I'm not sure what's going on exactly here between LG/nvidia, but this is the main thing people are complaining about and you can fix it. I hope this gets sorted soon since I admit it sucks.

I have my doubts about the rest of the things in that thread, because there are so many software issues that could be potentially causing problems it's hard to know how legitimate they are.

If you don't want to deal w/ the software issues then hold off until LG fixes them, or not. If they don't fix them eventually, I'll just return the TV as not working as intended (the only thing I care about is the g-sync stutter though, the other issues are not noticeable imo).
 
It's weird, everyone talks about burn in, but nobody has mentioned once you get it, if the TV is still usable or if it's really distracting? For example, I have a really old professional 32" here. It has lost some brightness since 2010, but we still use it to browse etc..
There seems to be allots of information online about burn-in and no one can give you the answer on if/when it happens or how long, and it's always have been a debate topic in the forums I think LG added some new features in there new CX range just in case some day you might/not experiences it, just to cover themselves, also if it was soo serious no one who buy OLED I believe it's got better over time like any new tech have.
 
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It definitely has some issues. But I'd say most of these are very minor and not noticeable (like the Dolby Vision raised blacks that I have never noticed in actual usage, but I guess I will look out for it now lol). I think you'll be hard pressed to find a flawless monitor or TV anywhere if ever. These LG flagship TVs are super complex and software bugs are unfortunately going to happen. At least LG is actively looking into them and making firmware releases, which they never do for any issues on their gaming monitors. So we know LG actually provides support for these, so eventually the issues will get sorted.

The only problem I've had in my 1 week of ownership is the G-sync set up is incredibly finicky. There is a specific trick you have to do to get gsync working without stuttering or input lag. Yes it's stupid, but they are also promising to fix these issues in the next firmware update. Apart from the workarounds, the TV is simply phenomenal and gaming in HDR on it is amazing.

Thanks for this very helpful post. I think it's really just a question of seeing for myself how big of an issue this VRR Gamma shift issue is with my own eyes. As you say, the rest of the issues can hopefully be fixed with firmware updates, this is the only one that LG have confirmed is intrinsic to the OLED panel itself due to pixel design for 120hz and therefore not fixable with software.
 
Thanks R3X. Yeah, I think I'll do the same and get it from JL when they have some stock. Thanks nvars, I'll comment on your points in order:
1. That's a good point about the CX being too new to tell about an real and widespread burn in issues - I'll definitely buy it from JL and pay the extra for the insurance..

https://www.johnlewis.com/customer-services/guarantees
JL insurance
Your guarantee won’t cover:
  • Accidental damage, for example if your TV has been dropped. You may find that this type of damage is covered by your household contents insurance policy, or you can buy Protect Plus for your TV
  • Image ghosting or screen burn. These can appear on a screen that's left operating for a prolonged period with either a still image or a channel constantly displaying a logo
  • Pixel spots. These are tiny dark or bright spots that may become visible on a screen
  • Servicing, inspecting or cleaning of the product, and failure to follow the manufacturer's instructions and/or installation guidelines
 
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