Lids off when buying petrol

[Mattius]

lol yeah ok, i have had 2 people arrested on one of my sites in the past 6 months for being underage in charge of a motor vehicle. Do you really think ever kid you see driving is over 16? there is lots of it about, i guess making that part of the petroleum regulations act is just another way of catching them out.

Its not really something you can debate, i cant exactly argue with the police or the petroleum officers as It Is The Law

 

[Lakeland]

Whats with this "balance the bike with one hand?"
Ive always sat on my bikes to fill them. Unless your posh and have a centre stand

I was saying hold the helmet in one hand, fill up with the other and balance the bike between your legs

 

[rypt]

Its not really something you can debate, i cant exactly argue with the police or the petroleum officers as It Is The Law

Then why is it that a self service station can exist without any sort of age check?

 

[Scort]

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I’ve had to put up with car drivers being impatient at the pumps before, I’ve come back after paying, then gone through the motions of kitting backup again, all the while the idiot is inching closer and close to my rear wheel – and the looks!

Gotta love people eh

Scort.

 

[Vertigo]

Of course you won't understand.. you don't own a bike and it won't annoy you.

So the opinion of anyone who doesn't own a bike is automatically invalid?

How incredibly arrogant, much like your reluctance to remove your helmet IMHO. We're all entitled to an opinion on this subject, whether we own bikes or not. Judging by the responses in this thread, the vast majority, myself included, consider the removal of your helmet when refuelling to be a perfectly reasonable stipulation. Rather than accepting that the majority appear to disagree with you, you feel the need to rubbish the opinion of anyone who doesn't ride a bike

 

[Barry Smalley]

Just to add to the thread (not that I've read all of it),

Should Burka's be removed, in the same instance?

 

[rtk]

Petrol stations regularly get held up for robberies (its why most have a height measurement strip by the doorway), surely you can see why they asked you to remove your helmet, as well as being courteous enough to show people your face when you converse with them.

And these people you had arguments with, im sure they don't enjoy arguing with a man clan in leather and protective clothing

 

[Barry Smalley]

nm....

 

[Barry Smalley]

nm again ..............

 

[Lakeland]

Dad - "Would you mind reinstalling XP onto my pc?"

Son - "There is more to installing xp than just putting the disc in an pressing go you know!"

Dad - "Yes I realise that is probably the case but surely all you have to do is install xp right?!"

 

[Dogbreath]

I always used to take my lid off, I'd never expect anyone to serve me fuel while I wore a black lid and a dark visor.

Likewise. Takes a few seconds to do, so I don't see the issue.

 

[Energize]

I don't quite see the point when they can see the vehicles registration number which is far more useful than a picture of someone which in all likelyhood would not be recognised by anyone. If someone really wanted to steal fuel after stealing a car they would just wear a disguise anyway rendering the footage useless.

 

[thecremeegg]

From my perspective the gimp in the garage gave me grief.. it felt that way from my end, which is that of the customer.

I'm never gonna cave in and undress / follow orders of a forecourt monkey, maybe it's abit of pride as well that comes into it... but I aint being treated like some 2nd class citizen by a spotty teenager.

I think that you sir, are a ****

 

[Flukester]

must admit i'm surprised had how strong feelings are here for such a simple thing

it annoyed me so i posted about it, and im sorry that my feelings on it annoy others here and im unable to understand other point of views

according to many here the last 21 years when nipping into shops to buy wine / fags / takeaways etc etc with lid on i've been being rude all this time

funny thing is, the current generation IMO is the rudest that has ever walked this earth.. at least that's the impression i get from the perspective of a old codger like me in day to day life

i'm generally not a rude person, but if annoyed am prone to show my feelings, if thats just a sly flip of the finger then so be it... at least i don't stick some poor guy with a knife, which seems the current way to deal with things.

over reacting, yeah for sure... but society today has gone wrong

 

[deko]

Its not a few seconds, its a complete faff if you'd read the posts of those that ride bikes (instead of ignoring them), you'd realise the whole process probably doubles the time it takes to get your petrol [assuming no big queue at the till] and leave particularly in winter when neck warmers which need tucking in are usually worn.

Anyway, I & my mates do our bit for car drivers if its busy and they're queued behind us by usually moving our bike forward after filling so they can start filling up themselves before we goto pay. I've never seen a car driver do that for a bike, in fact if you car drivers don't get off our backs I might just start faffing about with removing my helmet and everything else next time its busy and make you lot wait longer

doesnt that just cause more problems for the computerized systems when you go in to pay?

I pride myself on being as quickly away from the petrol pump as possible, have the car moving as soon as the door is closed if there is somebody behind, doesnt matter if its a bike or a car. If and when i do get my bike license though, i would put petrol in, go in and pay and then if i had taken my helmet off i would push the bike forward, but not before i paid, remember reading that it just causes problems.

 

[Flukester]

So the opinion of anyone who doesn't own a bike is automatically invalid?

How incredibly arrogant, much like your reluctance to remove your helmet IMHO. We're all entitled to an opinion on this subject, whether we own bikes or not. Judging by the responses in this thread, the vast majority, myself included, consider the removal of your helmet when refuelling to be a perfectly reasonable stipulation. Rather than accepting that the majority appear to disagree with you, you feel the need to rubbish the opinion of anyone who doesn't ride a bike

arrogant, maybe ...but not having to wear a helmet yourself makes your opinion a little less 'informed' than mine, that's just the way it is.

you won't know how truly something feels till you experience it yourself.. . when I posted this thread was only asking if anyone else had noticed it, not so much if you thought it was right or not.. but hey, this is the internet, and it's tons of fun having heated debates, love it!


maybe I'll take my lid off from now on, but I bet that motorists queuing behind me will be spitting nails while I faff about with all my winter gear at the pump

 

[atpbx]

The problem is that almost all fuel stations don't request that people remove their helmet, there are only a few out there which enforce the rule, which makes them look like a jobsworth. If every fuel station enforced the rule then id bet this thread would never of been started

So many people posting and they have not read or paid any attention to any of the posts motorcyclists have made. It is not as simple as "Taking off your helmet". You have to take off the helmet, unzip your jacket (letting all the heat out), then take off your balaclava and then remove your earplugs + store them somewhere safe. If you want to keep warm you have to then do your jacket back up. It is not an option to put your helmet on the end of the handle bars, if you have any sense anyway. Would you put a £300 I Phone on the edge of your curved bonnet and hope it wouldnt fall off?
When you have the helmet off, you either put it on the floor which is covered in spilt diesel or try and hold it with one hand, fill up with the other and balance the bike at the same time. Then you have to go into the shop and pay, wow, you have your helmet off, the person at the till is going to appreciate that you are not being rude by not showing them your face. Then you're back outside, refit your earplugs, un zip the top of your jacket again, letting the heat out once more, fit the balaclava, do up jacket, fit the helmet, which now feels like a soggy sock cause its cold and damp, great!

What nonsense is this?

You unclip the strap, pull it through the loops remove helmet, stick you gloves in it, stick it on the bars, mirrors or helmet lock (all of 10 seconds work), go into petrol station, remove wallet from trousers, pay lady/or gentleman, return to bike, remove gloves, put helmet on, put gloves on, ride away.

 

[Nebzor]

You do realise that most mirrors will not safely hold a helmet, bars are generally sloped downwards and so will not safely hold a helmet and not all bikes have a helmet lock?

It IS more of a fuss than all of you seem to think it is. I'm not complaining about the rules though - their own property, their own rules as far as I am concerned.

 

[mr jamez]

We're all entitled to an opinion on this subject, whether we own bikes or not. Rather than accepting that the majority appear to disagree with you, you feel the need to rubbish the opinion of anyone who doesn't ride a bike

Your opinion isn't based on experience of the matter in hand just like the majority of people in this thread. Of course you have the right to express it, but it carries no weight or substance

We have another thread today where a guy has to piddle about trying to fill up a jerry can. Lets go call him a lazy/rude/arrogant/whatever for getting wound up about silly rules.