Lily Allen: "History is racist"

Really cool how people are seemingly unable to criticise Lily Allen without being misogynistic about it. Makes the points worth paying attention to.
 
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No they were still similar but you can't compare them to the British empire.

True they were far worse... From my previous post

'The Zulu practice was to absorb only the women and young men of a clan or village. They killed the elderly and men of fighting age; the lucky ones escaped.'

The British empire was never quite this brutal in such a systemic fashion.

I'll let you work out what 'absorbing' the women of conquered tribes involved.... I think its pretty explicit what happened to all the others save the young men....

Unfortunately there's this very poor tendency to think that because the British empire was a fairly recent example of a particularly successful colonial empire that it was one of the worst if not the worst with regards to its practices....

Which even a casual knowledge of history would show to not be the case.....
 
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You know full well that British colonialism is deemed by a significant amount of people as being inherently a racist enterprise to the point that the words are used interchangeably when talking about that section of British history

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...-of-backing-apologists-of-british-colonialism
If you don’t think colonialism is the same as racism, then why make an argument that hinges on the use of one word in lieu of another?

Your article also doesn’t include any references to the two being interchangeable, or to anyone treating the two as interchangeable.
 
If you don’t think colonialism is the same as racism, then why make an argument that hinges on the use of one word in lieu of another?

Your article also doesn’t include any references to the two being interchangeable, or to anyone treating the two as interchangeable.

Colonialism is only the same/interchangeably used with racism when it comes to 'white' colonialism, particularly that of the British. As I alluded to earlier the usual suspects seem to have some 'interesting' blind spots when it comes to being consistent with colonialism in general.

I think that colonialism inherently comes with some racism by virtue of the colonial power and the necessary justification to go with it
 
Colonialism is only the same/interchangeably used with racism when it comes to 'white' colonialism, particularly that of the British. As I alluded to earlier the usual suspects seem to have some 'interesting' blind spots when it comes to being consistent with colonialism in general.

I think that colonialism inherently comes with some racism by virtue of the colonial power and the necessary justification to go with it
So they’re not the same, except when they are the same, and you’re defending foxeye’s use of the terms as though they are the same, and either way I’m wrong.

Yeah, alright mate, whatever.
 
So they’re not the same, except when they are the same, and you’re defending foxeye’s use of the terms as though they are the same, and either way I’m wrong.

Yeah, alright mate, whatever.

White colonialism = synonymous with racism

Other, non white, people acting in a similar fashion = not racist

Its perfectly easy to understand the Marxist revision of history when you are suitably 'woke'
 
Another leftie mob at it again. Utter cringe. Apols for DM, but it’s got a video.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5323519/Winston-Churchill-inspired-Blighty-cafe-stormed.html


From the article 'Halimo Hussein (left) seemed to be leading the chants and kept repeating 'we have nothing to lose but our chains'

Straight from the communist manifesto ! and people say I'm wrong or paranoid when I suggest there are Marxist underpinnings to pretty much all of the current 'rights' movements!

Still what do you expect from SOAS? Its the moral equivalent of a bunch of Nazi's crashing one of their haunts chanting 'arbecht mein frei'
 
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From the article 'Halimo Hussein (left) seemed to be leading the chants and kept repeating 'we have nothing to lose but our chains'

Straight from the communist manifesto ! and people say I'm bad or paranoid when I suggest there are Marxist underpinnings to pretty much all of the current rights movements!
Indeed. Just pure communism.

Stupid girl doesn’t realise that if it weren’t for people like Churchill they could well be living in a world that would lock you up or even execute you for pulling stunts like this. Totally clueless.
 
Another leftie mob at it again. Utter cringe. Apols for DM, but it’s got a video.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5323519/Winston-Churchill-inspired-Blighty-cafe-stormed.html
Revealed: Labour activist, 24, who led the 'hard left' charge against Churchill at themed 'Blighty' cafe is a Corybn fan who 'idolises' Russell Brand

So... a brain-dead role-model (Brand) for a brain-dead politics student.

I wonder what "chains" she truly is labouring against. The chains of being a spoilt, brain-dead moron, I assume.

Not sure what "anti-colonial policies" she wants us to focus on and prioritise. Certainly isn't going to win anyone over that has any working grey matter with that display anyhow. She might as well have dropped her pants and crapped on the floor; it would have been equally as persuasive as far as intelligent debate goes.
 
I was actually in there when this happened...you see the confusion on everyone's faces, made no real sense to be honest! Thought they were joking.
It doesn't have to make sense, nor do they even have to know what exactly they're protesting about.

Remember the BLM UK event where they closed an airport? They tried to interview one of the girls lying on the runway - they asked her what her reasons were and what she was trying to promote. Instead of replying, she lay there and giggled at the camera.

Right then you realised what you were dealing with. Spoilt, bored, purposeless twenty-somethings with issues. Not societal issues, personality issues.
 
White colonialism = synonymous with racism

Other, non white, people acting in a similar fashion = not racist

Its perfectly easy to understand the Marxist revision of history when you are suitably 'woke'
Ok, except I’ve not said anything about whether we use two different definitions depending on skin colour. I’ve challenged foxeye on his misleading thread title and you’ve bewilderingly leapt to his defence despite seemingly taking similar exception to his use of the term.
 
Ok, except I’ve not said anything about whether we use two different definitions depending on skin colour. I’ve challenged foxeye on his misleading thread title and you’ve bewilderingly leapt to his defence despite seemingly taking similar exception to his use of the term.
No you did what you always do, pronounced everyone who doesn't share your viewpoint as being wrong. Threw around some one-liner insults and generally rode around on your white horse calling us all right-wing. It's nothing more than we've come to expect from you.

e: Correction "far-right".
 
No you did what you always do, pronounced everyone who doesn't share your viewpoint as being wrong. Threw around some one-liner insults and generally rode around on your white horse calling us all right-wing. It's nothing more than we've come to expect from you.

e: Correction "far-right".
Ok, go right ahead and find me the posts where I’ve done even one of those things. I’ve posted eight times in this thread, nine if you include this post. If you use the search box in the top right you can search posts by user in this thread only, so I’m sure that with a fair wind you can probably find all my posts.

So go on, find any post where I’ve done any of those things in this thread.

I’ll wait.

And yeah, I’m being condescending in this post, so if you go back and edit the post I’m quoting and claim I’m being condescending then I’ll let you have that as a freebie.
 
True they were far worse... From my previous post

'The Zulu practice was to absorb only the women and young men of a clan or village. They killed the elderly and men of fighting age; the lucky ones escaped.'

The British empire was never quite this brutal in such a systemic fashion.

I'll let you work out what 'absorbing' the women of conquered tribes involved.... I think its pretty explicit what happened to all the others save the young men....

Unfortunately there's this very poor tendency to think that because the British empire was a fairly recent example of a particularly successful colonial empire that it was one of the worst if not the worst with regards to its practices....

Which even a casual knowledge of history would show to not be the case.....

British Colonists 'absorbed' women too, they put people in camps, massacred people, and their poor handling of the famine in India (and just their involvement in India as a whole) resulted in millions of deaths.

Again the scale is important, a small corner of southern Africa doesn't really compare to a quarter of the world. I don't want to know how many people had to die for an empire that big.
 
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