The switch from cancerous brake pads was a big help.
London pollution & ULEZ
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What things are they doing to tackle the air quality in the underground?
And do you honestly think us humans are capable of destroying a whole freaking planet because of driving a car? Lol
Soldato
To put it another way, moving around over a billion metal boxes that typically weigh over a ton each by combusting some stuff we pulled out of the ground. Yeah can't see how that could have an environmental impact at all.
Its a planet. We are barely tickling it.
You do know that planets go through its own climate change cycle and we are just unlucky enough that we are in its era of happening. It's happened before a single human could ride a push bike let alone a car so please do some research and find out that planets go through there own cycle.
You and other climate activists are really not giving our planet any credit and think 150 years of industrial era can single handedly destroy a planets that's a million years older then you and I...
They do
Cleaning the Underground: the unseen army of modern-day, minimum wage Tube ‘fluffers’
TfL contractors earning £11.95 an hour praised for doing ‘fantastic job’
www.standard.co.uk
It's not about whether we can destroy the planet, the planet will endure far more than we could ever throw at it. It's more about whether we're capable of ****ing things up enough to make it significantly less hospitable for ourselves.
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This will be then next issue in 20 years time.
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My point is that the planet doesn't give a crap about you, me and anyone else. It goes through its own cycle and species either adapt or be extincted
I wouldn't really call that evidence. It isn't thing the thing people are willing to vote in Tory candidates over.
We are talking predominantly inner city areas which are gonna vote in Tory candidates, only after hell freezes over. That doesn't mean LTNs are popular over the entire borough or area.
Here is a good summary of London. Labour was always gonna maintain control in those inner london boroughs.
Groups against LTNs fail to make impact on local election
Many of the councils that faced opposition for introducing Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) were re-elected with large majorities in the local elections on 5 M
www.transportxtra.com
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Oh right, yeah well then in that case, when you put it like that, lets definitely just spew as many toxic fumes into the air that we're breathing as we can
Soldato
Yes but our activity has made that cycle worse (climate change) and our reaction to those additional changes (reducing our emissions) is us adapting.
Christ we’ve got no chance if your views are representative of any proportion of the population.
Either way ULEZ isn't about climate change. It's about making the air more breathable.
I guess no one is being forced to go on the tube? People do have to live at home and walk outside?
I guess no one is being forced to go on the tube? People do have to live at home and walk outside?
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Soldato
Few questions for you:
Does the greenhouse effect work in your opinion?
Are atmospheric CO2 levels rising?
If it's not rising because of human activity then where is it coming from? I mean physically and specifically
And if that's the case then where are the known emissions from fossil fuels being burned for human use going exactly?
Also I don't think most of the physical planet is going anywhere, but I also don't think the state of that very thin layer of it that we inhabit of it is something we can take for granted. Out of all the time the planet has been around, how long does that 300,000 years that homo sapiens have existed represent of it as a percentage do you think?
Soldato
There's no point actively helping make ourselves 'extincted' though is there.
E: Although maybe there is an argument for doing so
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Soldato
What about the climate is changing exactly, a few degrees here and there which goes in cycles, C02 has gone up by 0.001?!?
Love the added nonsense when someone disagrees with the hysteria.
Soldato
the London LTNs create lots of revenue those new 20mph zones and 1million speeding tickets a year - driving will become so boring, unless you have the lottery of Musks FSD.
perhaps they should have Time of use charging for roads - in Cambridge you know that driving to work at 7am and getting out at 4:30 will save you 30 mins per day
Evidently tories can read and social media users manifestly incapable of exposing tfl/Khans's ulez exaggerated pollution gains :
(The imperial college analysis https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac30c1 )
basically TFL data conflates the effects of the congestion zone and original T-charge into ULEZ benefits.
(it's like blaming Ukraine for some of brexit originated problems)
perhaps they should have Time of use charging for roads - in Cambridge you know that driving to work at 7am and getting out at 4:30 will save you 30 mins per day
I wouldn't really call that evidence. It isn't thing the thing people are willing to vote in Tory candidates over.
We are talking predominantly inner city areas which are gonna vote in Tory candidates, only after hell freezes over.
Evidently tories can read and social media users manifestly incapable of exposing tfl/Khans's ulez exaggerated pollution gains :
(The imperial college analysis https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac30c1 )
basically TFL data conflates the effects of the congestion zone and original T-charge into ULEZ benefits.
(it's like blaming Ukraine for some of brexit originated problems)
I'm sorry but driving down a tight residential street in central London is not the place to be 'having fun', if you are 'having fun' you are a probably driving like a total utter <insert word here>, part of the problem and exactly why LTN's were introduced.
Why do you also have to bring in Elon Must to literally every thread, its like you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with the man. Sure his a bit of a *** these days but you need to find something more productive to learn about.
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There is a distinction between "fun" and "not watching paint dry". 20mph is distinctly closer to the latter...