LOST..... How do you think it will end

Shamikebab said:
Am I the only one that really enjoyed the latest episode then :confused:
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I just thought that they could have done with missing some of it out and answering something else. Cave bones would have been a million times better if they were Rose & Bernard's. :(.
 
Yeah I thought it was good. I just sort of wish they could have done something better to explain the "light" and source of energy etc. It just seemed very fantasy-ish.
 
This is the way I feel: six seasons for a poxy light? All of the mysteries and weird goings on etc. and it just lead to protecting a light.

Don't get me wrong, Lost is still one of my favourite television series of all time, but I just find they way they have gone with it seems pretty 'meh' in my opinion.
 
problem with the last episode was this:

- losties land on island have no idea whats going on (like us)
- losties find Rousseau, someone who has been on the island for years...she doesn't haven any real answers
- They find Ben leader of the others....he really doesn't have any answers
- The others Tom/Juliet friendly others don't really have any answers
- The freighter crew sent by Widmore very sciencey....don't really have any answers
- Richard been on the island for years doesn't age....doesn't really have any answers
- Dogen leads the temple others....doesn't really have any answers
- Widmore king pin...doesn't really have any answers
- Jacob...the main men, the one who has been billed as a God....doesn't have any answers

This god like being that was Jacob is just another guy who seems like he is a pawn in someone else's game. Consistently we have been introduced to new groups of people or individuals who seem to be in charge of the previous group just to find out they offer no definitive answers either!

I know its lost and there is always an air of mystery when answers are revealed but an episode like this should have offered more.

As far as "the poxy light" come on lets give Lost some credit they have explained what the light was/is previously. "It is exotic matter with negative energy that creates a Casimir Effect" thats from the orientation video of the orchid. The same matter which makes movements through space time possible.
 
Inazuma said:
Answers:
  • The protector of the island is the one who sets the rules. The rules carry on existing even after the protector is dead.
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The rules appear to be massively inconsistent. I really hoped they had some some sort of detailed core to that story, you know - the way book authors build the action around idea, but the longer I review this season vs past seasons the more I discover this is all just random short term hire uninformed people trying to fix complete mess left by other completely uninformed short term hire people in massive rush and that will leave this merchandise completely unfinished, most of plots never wrapped up and actions of characters completely inconsistent. Almost as inconsistent as those characters themselves - smoke included, but that's another discussion, for a longer post.

  • Adam Eve in the cave are in fact MIB and his mother. Not Rose and Bernard as would have been the better explanation IMO.
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That ship has sailed, sort of, since in Season one, Jack's "post mortem" reveals the bodies to be dead for, I quote "40-50 years". They just about stretched it with circa 35-40 years with Bernard and Rose, but MiB and mother would need a stretch bigger than Jack Bauers bladder.
 
v0n said:
That ship has sailed, sort of, since in Season one, Jack's "post mortem" reveals the bodies to be dead for, I quote "40-50 years". They just about stretched it with circa 35-40 years with Bernard and Rose, but MiB and mother would need a stretch bigger than Jack Bauers bladder.
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While I agree the answers do feel forced i.e the whispers etc the bodys could be explained by the islands healing propertys?
 
Hostile17 said:
the bodys could be explained by the islands healing propertys?
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Which is also very, very picky at what it heals - it will heal inch from death sonic fence struck Mikhail, but not inch from death Boone. It takes only 7 island days for Sawyer to fully recover (and I mean like fully - from unconscious to fully working, joking, poking state) from life threatening gunshot wound received on the raft despite being technically off the island and without medical help for two days, but US Marshall will die from the shard of metal to abdomen regardless of care, or even worse - Donald from the tail section, who dies after 5 days from leg wound.
The healing properties will also take care of paraplegia or cancer "imported" to the island by Locke and Rose, but will not stop Jack from developing life threatening case of appendicitis or - going down to completely trivial cases - even simple things like Boone's sister's asthma, Sawyers need for reading glasses or Aaron's nappy rash.
 
the island has definitely shown in intelligence and insight into who it wants to save and who it wants to die. "Negatively charged exotic matter capable of causing a casimir effect" does not explain how an island can chose for one person to die but can save another.
 
That last episode was utter toss. Jacob was just an annoying pussy boy. I'm glad that Ben stabbed him to death, and I hope that the smoke monster wins.

I can't believe they teased us for years with DHARMA stuff (like the rabbits in the Orchid), then sacked it off for this badly thought out mythological bunch of horsecrap.
 
ElvisFan said:
I can't believe they teased us for years with DHARMA stuff (like the rabbits in the Orchid), then sacked it off for this badly thought out mythological bunch of horsecrap.
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There is a very solid and hard impact break off line in the story and writing that happens between season 4 and 5, S4e8 to be precise. It's almost as if all the writers on staff that participated in writers strike were fired and the producers were contractually unable to continue with the original dharma/others/hostiles story arc and moved onto completely insane "back to the future"/ying yang brothers myth type of stuff. There are many, many, many parts of the story from season 3 and 4 that just vanish/disappear in season 5 and 6 without a trace. And I'm not even talking little teaser clliff hangers like Libby being in mental hospital with Hurley, but major story parts and leads just suddenly stop mid tale, break off and go into another direction.

Another indicator of "we lost license to the story" scenario is sudden twists in character development. I already mentioned The Others and Whispers turning 180 degrees in story, but this bizarre stuff affects even later main themes. The Black Smoke for example. Described at the end of Season 1 as security mechanism, a guard of the island. It would attack one entity at the time, you could hide from it in a tightly growing bamboo bushes, if that was its mission, it would hurl you into the air and maul you over (vide Echo). Often it would attack one in team to scare you out of the area and then vanish (vide one of the mercenaries from the chopper). For all intents and purposes The Black Smoke was deadly and dangerous, if a little dumb equivalent to German Shepperd on steroids.

Between Season 1, 2, 3 and beginning of the season 4 and season 5, 6 The Black Smoke undertook two developments that made no sense whatsoever. First, it was reinvented by what can only presume was temporary team of writters for the end of season 4: throughout first 3 seasons the smoke was either very dumb or gravity bound - since it couldn't lift too high off the ground. We know this because it was breaking trees to make its way through the jungle and couldn't pass through 10 foot sonic pylons (and as we know, other characters could go over the top of them, sonic barrier didn't exist above the pylons). We also know it to be carrying The Disease, since most of Russeau's crew died of it after coming into contact with The Moster in The Temple, according to her story. no one on the island knows what it is - including Ben, when asked directly he admits to Locke "I don't know what this thing is, John" somewhere in season 3.

But then we have the lapse in writing - in episode 9 of Season 4 we see Ben rushing to an alcove in his hut and call the smoke over for help. The smoke then for the first time arrives not as a weedy shadow but as massive cloud, several meters in diameter, passing over the trees, over the houses, throwing and thrashing its huge body tens of meters above the jungle when fighting mercenaries. At that stage The Black Smoke is still The Monster. Dumb German Shepperd (that apparently reacts to a whistle of some description hidden inside Dharma compound), but its behavior change - if it was that big and could fly so high, why didn't it just go above sonic fence?. And if Dharma/Ben had a whistle for it, then why protect yourself from it with pylons? Makes no sense, right? But then we have the later seasons and The Black Smoke becomes the "heart of the story" - the point of it all. I'm just going to ask straight - are you ****** kidding me - WTF is this poo?

And it's again, just one element of the last two seasons not making any sense. I could go on for hours - the Wigmore - dude who couldn't find the island, but sent team for Linus with orders to kill everyone else on it, including the guy, who as it turned out 20 episodes later, was irreplaceable for his plans . Or Jacob - you know, the guy Ben never really saw, but Locke heard, but Ben and Alpert followed their entire life despite Ben admitting never hearing or seeing him. The good guy, the Ying, that ordered murder of entire Dharma in The Purge, that turned out to be momma's boy that spent most of his life stocking people in a mirror on top of light house and visiting them all over the world, but couldn't move from the hut where Locke had to find him through map in Horace uniform, but there he would only appear as random dead people as in reality he would only in his room at the feet of the statue where any mortal could stab him with any shiv to like, omg, death, but not really death. Yeah, I'm talking about that kind of drunk off their marbles kind of random temp writing.

I'm stabbing in the dark here with multiple teams of writers here. And I'm too lazy too actually look up authors of all the episodes by name. But unless they all had group amnesia - the lapse of contractual rights to original story plots is, in my opinion the only explanation for moving from Dharma/Hostiles story to myth story.

The writers of original Lost, the first three seasons made a lot of bad mistakes - they insisted they planned the series as day-to-day across years type of story but focused entire season around relatively unimportant to the story boy that grew too fast to maintain intended time lapse for more than 12 episodes. They built another half a season around two actors that they had to promptly write off as world wide audience found both characters of Boone and Shannon and their story together hard to swallow. We had characters loosing their accent between seasons (Danielle S1 vs Danielle S3). We had orientation tapes between seasons come from parallel dimensions (Dr. Pierre Chung aka Dr. Marvin Candle aka Dr. Mark Wickmund aka Dr. Edgar Halliwax some with screwed arm, some without). Loads of inconsitencies. But at least story was all together solid (ish). I would really love to hear what the first draft authors wanted to achieve in later seasons.
 
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I'm not so buzzed to see the final few episodes any more. I though the latest episode was totally un-LOST like.
 
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