Louis Van Gone / Jose Mourinho set to be announced as Man Utd manager this week - BBC

Yeah very poor form from united with the timing of letting that information out.

Alternatively LVG is an egotistical nob head, so hard to care
 
FrankJH said:
Given that he would have hit his target of top 4 (given that the investors and management only really care about CL and what that brings) with one more point in the EPL, it can hardly be classified as a "spectacular fail" - even if the majority of performances were tragic.
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No I think spectacular fail is fair. Obviously we can't know what the board said to him at the start of the season but for me fourth was the minimum target, realistically we should be competing for the title. When you take into account how poor our competition has been this season and how Leicester have won the title comfortably with their squad then spectacular fail is the only way you can describe it. That;s not even taking into account our humiliating performance in Europe and the fact we've played some of the worst football I've ever seen a Utd side play.
 
They sacked Moyes as soon as CL football was a mathematical impossibility. For a club like United they should be qualifying for the CL every season and that will be the least that's expected of any United Manager.
 
Jorge Mendes leaked the news to various journalists, it had nothing to do with the club. No way we'd have announced it right after the final whistle.

Other than that, I'm really rather delighted.
 
I'm more looking forward to seeing the meltdown when things don't go his way, I think it will be absolutely epic.

Other than that, next season is shaping up to be another special one. Pep at City, Conte at Chelsea, moaninho at Utd and not forgetting the untouchable Wenger at Arsenal.
 
I'm actually half looking forward to Mourinho at Utd. All season Utd fans have been complaining about the style of football, the likes of Herrera and Mata being benched for Fellaini, will things under Mourinho change?

I've seen people trying to convince themselves Mourinho plays attacking football. When things are going great and you're playing far inferior sides, for the odd month, maybe (even LvG had spells where you played decent football) but when it mattered or when things weren't running smoothly he always reverts back to defensive football. Even with Real, where he had the most expensive squad if the history of football, packed with incredible attacking players, he'd go back to his old ways when it mattered - reportedly 1 of the reasons half the squad turned on him.

It's going to be really interesting to see how this works out. Unlike his previous jobs I think he'll struggle to make an immediate impact - the state of this Utd side and the level of competition he'll face makes it so much harder than before. Will he adopt the Utd way and play attacking football, bringing through young players or will we be seeing more lumping it to Fellaini? My gut feeling is it'll be similar to Chelsea 2nd time around - he'll start off trying to play the way people want and with the likes of Mata but ultimately it won't work and he'll use that as justification to reverting back to what he knows. As above, the biggest question will be whether he can be as successful in the short term as he has previously.

Whatever happens before, the meltdown in ~3 years should be fun.
 
Purdy said:
Yeah very poor form from united with the timing of letting that information out.

Alternatively LVG is an egotistical nob head, so hard to care
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How do you know it came from Utd's side?

Shamikebab said:
No I think spectacular fail is fair. Obviously we can't know what the board said to him at the start of the season but for me fourth was the minimum target, realistically we should be competing for the title. When you take into account how poor our competition has been this season and how Leicester have won the title comfortably with their squad then spectacular fail is the only way you can describe it. That;s not even taking into account our humiliating performance in Europe and the fact we've played some of the worst football I've ever seen a Utd side play.
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Fair enough - but the clear target was still top 4

I still think its more than a coincidence that City , Chelsea and Utd all failing to different degrees in the same season is pretty remarkable (even Arsenal to a lesser degree)

BaZ87 said:
I'm actually half looking forward to Mourinho at Utd. All season Utd fans have been complaining about the style of football, the likes of Herrera and Mata being benched for Fellaini, will things under Mourinho change?

I've seen people trying to convince themselves Mourinho plays attacking football. When things are going great and you're playing far inferior sides, for the odd month, maybe (even LvG had spells where you played decent football) but when it mattered or when things weren't running smoothly he always reverts back to defensive football. Even with Real, where he had the most expensive squad if the history of football, packed with incredible attacking players, he'd go back to his old ways when it mattered - reportedly 1 of the reasons half the squad turned on him.

It's going to be really interesting to see how this works out. Unlike his previous jobs I think he'll struggle to make an immediate impact - the state of this Utd side and the level of competition he'll face makes it so much harder than before. Will he adopt the Utd way and play attacking football, bringing through young players or will we be seeing more lumping it to Fellaini? My gut feeling is it'll be similar to Chelsea 2nd time around - he'll start off trying to play the way people want and with the likes of Mata but ultimately it won't work and he'll use that as justification to reverting back to what he knows. As above, the biggest question will be whether he can be as successful in the short term as he has previously.

Whatever happens before, the meltdown in ~3 years should be fun.
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Im surprised anyone actually thinks Mata will survive the summer.....and with the cash being given to Mourinho (or rumoured amount anyway) - if we cant replace Fellaini with someone who can actually play the game at a decent level , Mourinho wont survive one year let alone three - there will be open rebellion if Afro is still a regular starter
 
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BaZ87 said:
I'm actually half looking forward to Mourinho at Utd. All season Utd fans have been complaining about the style of football, the likes of Herrera and Mata being benched for Fellaini, will things under Mourinho change?

I've seen people trying to convince themselves Mourinho plays attacking football. When things are going great and you're playing far inferior sides, for the odd month, maybe (even LvG had spells where you played decent football) but when it mattered or when things weren't running smoothly he always reverts back to defensive football. Even with Real, where he had the most expensive squad if the history of football, packed with incredible attacking players, he'd go back to his old ways when it mattered - reportedly 1 of the reasons half the squad turned on him.

It's going to be really interesting to see how this works out. Unlike his previous jobs I think he'll struggle to make an immediate impact - the state of this Utd side and the level of competition he'll face makes it so much harder than before. Will he adopt the Utd way and play attacking football, bringing through young players or will we be seeing more lumping it to Fellaini? My gut feeling is it'll be similar to Chelsea 2nd time around - he'll start off trying to play the way people want and with the likes of Mata but ultimately it won't work and he'll use that as justification to reverting back to what he knows. As above, the biggest question will be whether he can be as successful in the short term as he has previously.

Whatever happens before, the meltdown in ~3 years should be fun.
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I wouldn't say he plays out and out attacking football at all, he plays counter attacking football, which gets more and more defensive against harder opponents/if things are going badly. He's certainly not a manager who has a parked bus set up the majority of games, that's just something people tend to think.

The problems with LvG aren't just about the dull football, it's dull football without results, LvG saying stupid things and effectively insulting the fans, and it's felt like he's not had a clue what he's doing for 2 seasons now.

Mourinho is in a situation he hasn't quite been in before:

  • He's at long last got the keys to the biggest football club in the world outside of Spain (or close to, depending how you view things)

  • He'll be desperate to win everything and go down as one of our great managers, especially since SAF. This could cloud his decisions in some ways, but we'll see.

  • Unlike at Chelsea and Real Madrid, he will most likely have majority control over all the football aspects of the club, and we have a boardroom that don't really interfere at all.

  • He'll get more than a fair crack at the job, and has a chance to build something longer term if possible...

What will also be interesting is, as you mentioned, I think he's going to have to try and adapt more than before. Use more younger players (though this point isn't particularly important really), play more attacking football, and also try and carry himself with a bit more dignity where possible, though I'm all for him winding the Liverpool fans up however he wants to. I don't really care if all the other fans hate him because they don't like us anyway.

If he leaves and has a meltdown again, hopefully the squad will be in fairly good shape and we're able to bring whoever looks a decent coach in a few years.

Of course there's always a risk it won't go well, I thought LvG would at least have us playing decent football before a big implosion, but it's been dire since that Leicester game early in his first season.

I can't think of a single manager who could come in and guarantee us anything at the moment, I think Pep will have an equally hard time of it at City, Mourinho at least knows the league and has that to his advantage.

Either way, with Klopp, Pep, Mourinho, Conte and Wenger (:p), next season should be really interesting...
 
Feel a bit sad for Van Gaal to be honest. Our team is full of average players with the exception of Martial and De Gea who look like actual Man Utd players. He has bought a lot of youth into the squad with a lot of promising players with the likes of Rashford, Fosu-Mensah and Jesse Lingard.

Do not forget this was Van Gaals first time in the premier league and at the start of the season all we had upfront was Rooney and a unproven Martial. Also our injury list had been horrendous over the winter and it showed by our extremely poor show during January and Feb.

A lot of the buying decisions seemed great at the time. Depay had a lot of promise but let the lifestyle take him and morgan was a beast last year so to not perform this year was a pitty.

We will all see next season anyway. If Mourhino makes us into beasts then it was all worth it but if we end up exactly the same then Van Gaal didn't do bad. At least we have gotten some silverware out of it.

Do not forget that we finished level on points with City and only 5 points behind second place. I am sure if we had an Aguero, Vardy or Harry Kane we would have done better. Infact it was pretty much the reason we won in Fergies final year was because Van Persie was in complete God mode!

4 points behind a resurgent second coming Spurs and level with City which has a well established title winning team and Chelsea no comment! That's not bad on the face of things when you have no real strike force and have to use Daly Blind as a full back!
 
He'll have full control over transfers which I don't think he got at Chelsea or RM. I don't want Mendes clients other than DDG either, maybe that'll help in keeping him.

I don't want any of our youngsters loaned out or sold especially not CBJ, Mensah, Lingard, Januzaj and Depay.
 
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