They did but oddly JM gets no credit for it.
Louis Van Gone / Jose Mourinho set to be announced as Man Utd manager this week - BBC
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They did but oddly JM gets no credit for it.
Under Mourinho anything is possible as we've seen over the years..
As for youth I am talking of a few select individuals, not a full lineup consisting of youngsters. Balance is key in any situation..
Thats because people are idiots and are incapable of making up their own minds. You can tell them that his team scored x number of goals which is a league record and they will just ignore it and spout the crap about his boring defensive football. The only thing I will agree with people about is that he seems to struggle to keep a job in the third year but then madrid change their managers ridiculously often. Chelsea sack managers for fun as well.
The main thing I can't understand is why people say he isn't a long term solution when all the top clubs in the world don't keep managers for more than a few years and it does them little harm. Winning trophies and having a top manager is what keep you at the top.
I am really excited for Mourinho to come to United and I think that we will see 10 times better football than we did under LvG and he will also attract top players. I would take 2 years of what chelsea had with him over 10 years of the depressing, insipid football that LvG loves.
The main thing I can't understand is why people say he isn't a long term solution when all the top clubs in the world don't keep managers for more than a few years and it does them little harm. Winning trophies and having a top manager is what keep you at the top.
I am really excited for Mourinho to come to United and I think that we will see 10 times better football than we did under LvG and he will also attract top players. I would take 2 years of what chelsea had with him over 10 years of the depressing, insipid football that LvG loves.
I feel much the same fez. Yes he's known for defensive football in really two situations, games where his team are the clear underdog, and/or in very big matches. As a general rule he's done pretty well in these situations, so people have remembered them. Sir Alex was much the same, I'm sure we can all remember Park Ji-sung appearing for any difficult games and man marking people for 90 mins.
Against weaker teams he'll generally try and play decent attacking football, and in a knockout game, nobody will care if you snatch a 1-0 win on the counter attack and defend most of the game.
I think he'll make a bit more of an effort to use younger players where possible, even if it's just giving them time as substitutes when games are already won. Our younger players have gained a decent amount of experience this season, so it should make things easier too.
I bet Juan Mata is gutted... but he's not been great for us anyway.
Against weaker teams he'll generally try and play decent attacking football, and in a knockout game, nobody will care if you snatch a 1-0 win on the counter attack and defend most of the game.
I think he'll make a bit more of an effort to use younger players where possible, even if it's just giving them time as substitutes when games are already won. Our younger players have gained a decent amount of experience this season, so it should make things easier too.
I bet Juan Mata is gutted... but he's not been great for us anyway.
Exactly, so many United fans forget that the final years under Fergie were effective if not exciting football. We relied on doing what we always were good at. Getting results against nearly all the smaller sides and then trying to avoid defeat against our rivals.
Chelsea played good football under Mourinho and the only time they parked the bus is when he played against the likes of Barca, Real and teams he didn't fancy his chances against in an open game etc. Tactical astuteness is vital in the CL.
We used to play defensively under Fergie against the top sides in Europe most seasons and still get beaten.
Chelsea played good football under Mourinho and the only time they parked the bus is when he played against the likes of Barca, Real and teams he didn't fancy his chances against in an open game etc. Tactical astuteness is vital in the CL.
We used to play defensively under Fergie against the top sides in Europe most seasons and still get beaten.
It will be nice to see the players that remain played in their actual positions. Plus they'll be able to see the ball coming as Fellaini's hair won't be getting in the way any more. (I'm assuming Fellaini is packing his bags as we speak and will be out the door even quicker than Mata)
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With Mourinho's useless form last year at Chelsea I can see things going from bad to worse for Man U.
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Largely because they broke records the year before, they bought Ronaldo, Benzema, had Higuain in form at that point and were a top team before Mourinho, they also became more and more disjointed as a team and played less and less good football while he was there.
This is the same deal as his first year at Chelsea, Chelsea were a very entertaining team before Mourinho joined. In his first year that team also gained Robben and Cech who Ranieri and not Mourinho joined. They played great football but once again over a 3 year period the team became more and more boring, the offence became worse, the team was sitting back and being ultra defensive.
A manager doesn't generally change a team over night, Poch's Spurs took a long time to take on new style and become a consistently different team and that is no different with Mourinho. He takes over brilliant squads, often great attacking teams and drills ultra defensive styles into them, over a period of 1-3 years the team becomes worse and worse to watch over time, not over night.
I couldn't be happier that Mourinho is getting the job. I wanted him to get it when Fergie left but it obviously wasn't the right time.
People talk about Mourinho playing defensive football but when you actually look at his record, his teams are usually one of the highest scoring in the league, while often being the best defensively. People just remember the games more where he would park the bus for some reason. I still remember watching some Chelsea games in the 2004-06 period where he'd have Duff and Robben on the wings completely destroying teams!
If LvG had stayed, without the lure of CL next season, United would've really struggled to get anyone in of any real quality. With Mourinho there, I don't see that bring a problem. We'll struggle a bit to beat City to the top players as the only manager I see as being a bigger draw is Guardiola, plus City obviously have deeper pockets. But after this announcement, I've gone from a feeling of mild trepidation for next season to one of excitement.
August can't come soon enough!
People talk about Mourinho playing defensive football but when you actually look at his record, his teams are usually one of the highest scoring in the league, while often being the best defensively. People just remember the games more where he would park the bus for some reason. I still remember watching some Chelsea games in the 2004-06 period where he'd have Duff and Robben on the wings completely destroying teams!
If LvG had stayed, without the lure of CL next season, United would've really struggled to get anyone in of any real quality. With Mourinho there, I don't see that bring a problem. We'll struggle a bit to beat City to the top players as the only manager I see as being a bigger draw is Guardiola, plus City obviously have deeper pockets. But after this announcement, I've gone from a feeling of mild trepidation for next season to one of excitement.
August can't come soon enough!
did Mourinho not improve Real in the Champions league when he arrived though?
and what records are you talking about as well? Is it not well known his 2nd season with Real was like mental for goals scored, like over 120? Of course they are a top team, it's Real Madrid, but they had dropped out of the Champions league at the last 16 the previous 7 years.
Just checking then, yea, his 2nd season is still the highest amount of goals scored in a la liga season ever, 121.
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Er... I'm not sure your anecdotal evidence holds up to the actual stats.
Chelsea: Year before he takes over, Chelsea are runners up by some distance. He then takes them to 1st place for 2 years on the trot. Each year Chelsea are either first or 2nd for number of goals scored and concede the least number of goals each season.
Inter: He took over a team that won the league and continued to win the league for the two seasons he was there. Both seasons his teams were 1st for goals scored (and scored more than the year before he joined), and conceded the least number of goals.
Real: His first year was almost exactly the same as the previous year - 2nd, 102 goals scored, 33 conceded (35 previous year). But the second year, the team broke all manner of scoring records while winning the league and having a better defensive record.
Chelsea: The team finished 6th and 3rd in the two years before he returned, he then took them to 3rd and 1st, scoring more goals in the 2nd season than the 1st season.
Sorry, but your statements just don't align with the actual facts.
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People seem to be writing off Mourinho because he had ONE poor season with Chelsea.
This seems to have written off his frankly brilliant record before that.
I think it is a great appointment and I wanted him to replace Ferguson straight away to be honest.
One good thing is that he will attract a lot top players, even though we don't have Champions League football, which is important.
This seems to have written off his frankly brilliant record before that.
I think it is a great appointment and I wanted him to replace Ferguson straight away to be honest.
One good thing is that he will attract a lot top players, even though we don't have Champions League football, which is important.
Surely he had two bad seasons, both times he was fired?
After the last few months where Mourinho was going to be appointed nearly every week I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves here, the only difference now is that its the end of the season.
IF this time its correct its the best birthday present ever, even if it could go spectacularly wrong in the near future. Four 1st team players plus a couple of squad players while getting rid of the major chaff is probably the absolute max that can be done this summer but that still relies on no significant injuries to still challange next may
3 years isn't short term, it's normal. All the top teams change managers every few years, or less.
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I'm so gutted that morinho diddnt go to arsenal. You can't moan and say there was no managers available to take over Wenger. Bloody joke
Who are all these long term managers in the EPL or even at the top clubs in europe. It seems to be another cliche line that people pedal out. The ones that have stayed a long while peope are falling over themselves to tell you they have been there too long and should go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The same manager you argued only a few months ago was crap, over rated and worse than wenger. You are either account sharing or really do need to get yourself checked out.