May be best to file for a patent before sending it to a youtuber with 15m subs. Again not saying what happened was right, but maybe their priority should be in a patent first, it sounds like they have some naivety when it comes to managing a product.
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He wasn't given the opportunity to apologize, imagine finding out someone in your business ***** up and then you are brigaded on multiple platforms. The fact it's been 'resolved' in quick succession shows he's trying.
But we have the higher than thou brigade out.
Also patent it? It's a block designed for a soon to be obsolete socket and a 3090ti. Billet have come out of this the winner a large sum of money for a basic copper block with off the shelf tubing.
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You can't really stab someone in the back when you were never really besties to begin with.
If you upload videos for the entire planet to watch then you have to accept that you open yourself up for scrutiny.
When Steve messes something up, And he no doubt will, He'll also rightfully be open to criticism.
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I see Linus like the other YouTuber types who are there for clicks rather than factual information think of him like the Logan Paul’s they serve a purpose to provide entertainment nothing else. If i want to get factual technical details on a product before I buy it I watch smaller channels who know their USP is the fact they give accurate details.
Linus is the Logan Paul’s of Tech YouTube the danger is people who don’t know this will think his videos are accurate and factual.
Linus is the Logan Paul’s of Tech YouTube the danger is people who don’t know this will think his videos are accurate and factual.
Are you on another planet?
And Steve could have told Linus before going public so he could sort it out as its obvious he was oblivious to it.
The only way the brigading mob will be satisfied is if Linus fails or he fires someone and that's a tad ****** up. Just see the **** being said about him on his forum by GN fan boys.
Not of a **** up on both parts, but oneside has just stabbed a friend in the back for YouTube views. And it will be noted by others.
Linus did the backstabbing first, so Steve is only defending himself
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How?
Did Linus do a hit piece on Steve on something someone in his company did without his knowledge?
This could all be resolved with a simple btw we've been contacted by billet email to Linus.
But Steve saw dollar signs and the hordes of holier than thous became morally outraged
A) when he did come out to try and apologise he didn't actually do that and lied to everyone in his forum post. His trying was to blame others, claim they had done something they had not, not even got an agreement from billet and just assumed as such with no payment actually made and took a video for the company as a whole to actually do anything.
B) you can still patent a design especially if it is something that could be used for future development. The mounting issue was the PCB difference. That doesn't change the block itself (the coldplate) or anything similar could be specific and thus worth protecting
C) even if it was "basic copper block" then it was still their said block
D) we don't know that they don't have a patent for the design
All your posts to date have honestly been delusional to all the known facts to date and show how caught up in what appears to be 1. A hate of GN and/or 2. A love for LMG for some unknown reason.
Tell that to Asetek.
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When your staff blatantly start putting down other tech tubers in your videos then you open yourself up for criticism.
I highly doubt any of this would've happened had his staff member not publicly said "unlike Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed etc...." as he just called into question their entire workflow.
If Linus wants to avoid situations like this he needs to gag his employees.... and also not sell peoples property.
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That's fine, have your opinion.
So you didn't really complete your sentence but I'm guessing what you are trying to say is that Linus should have known that it needs to be returned and he should not have sold it. Is that fair?
You realise that some companies do let them keep stuff because it's not worth the effort of sending it back?
He has no way of knowing what conversation has happened between his team and billet lab and what arrangement was made. If a leader is second guessing every decision his team is making then that company won't last. If his team hands him a box of items and tells him to auction in it. He can't go digging through it and double checking their work. The processes should be in place to do that for him.
Genuine question does your team leader micro manage you at work? Or are you the team leader doing the micro managing? Because I don't understand how anyone thinks this is a practical way for a business to work. Surely you have experience in an actual company right not a tiny mom and pop store. How do you think it is practical for one man to micro manage everything?
I didn't say anything because I still need to watch the video and read the response. However I'm not going to trust someone rundown of the situation when their bias/emotions has led them to conclude that one person should be micro managing and double checking the work of a 100+ person company.
Depends on what is being auctioned. Also if we are speculating, senior could just mean the person who is the head of the warehouse where this stuff is being stored. and I can guarantee
that the person running the warehouse is in a different team to the people who are in direct communication with companies for video ideas.Also see above about micro managing.
You realise there are two way to interpret the last sentence right because it is actually quite vague? He doesn't actually state who they agreed with. He never said that "we had already agreed with billet labs to compensate them on the cost of the prototype". Yet that is how everyone is reading it.
You realise that external payment and compensation is not a decision that the initial LMG employee could have made and would need to be escalated internally? Just to avoid confusion that doesn't mean going straight to the CEO for a decision.
So the other way to read it is that internally this was raised and a decison was made to pay them. It could have been waiting for a final sign off for all we know. Only 4 days had passed between the email and GNs video.
So maybe Linus was lying through his teeth or maybe Linus was talking about an agreement being made internally. We don't know but don't let that let that stop your biases and emotions guiding you to the answer you want to be true. I will wait for more information.
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What's any of Steve's past got anything to do with linus rushing reviews, not proof reading the facts and selling off prototypes without consent and then not admitting you did wrong?
I disagee, I think he will. However he's potentially setting himself up for an epic fail later if he messes up - everyone will be on him.
However LMG needed called out, I do wonder how much of this is GN and LMG seeing people more as competitors now over testing than simple reviewers. They have both invested a lot of money in testing setups recently.
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He literally just done a full video tour of AMD and have more coming up.... I think he's doing just fine.
I know, I know i'm doing it again, I shouldn't reply.
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why? The main point of that video was the bilet labs thing. The rest of it was icing on the cake. Only people that are going to not look favorable have been drinking the LTT cool aid. If LTT had owned up before hand there wouldn't have been an issue.
They would struggle to get a patent for it. As it's a mixture of preexisting ideas jumbled together without a original standout component. For an example see the the majority of water blocks are not protected by patents due to the non uniqueness but the something like the original idea of a water block and pump combined is
No I don't love LMG. I know they aren't a factual information source it's entertainment, but people are acting like Steve is the Messiah despite the fact he's been up to some very sketchy things in the past.
Also acting like Steve has no vested interest in attacking a rival? Like if he was for the truth or to help billet why didn't he contact Linus?
It's obvious that the issue has been caused by one of linuses staff, but people are acting like Linus stole the item himself and.ignored billets emails personally.
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