Malaysian GP 2009 - Race 2/17

[NightSt@lk3r]

Still don't get it.

he asked about people with 30 laps of fuel 1 stopping, i replied that the softs barely last 5 laps so to 1 stop with softs the race would have to be 35-40 laps long.

 

[Glaucus]

he asked about people with 30 laps of fuel 1 stopping, i replied that the softs barely last 5 laps so to 1 stop with softs the race would have to be 35-40 laps long.

I edited.
5 laps for super soft, they are not running super soft compound. We don't know how these handle. I expect heavy runners will start on soft compund and try and do 1 stop if they last.

 

[NightSt@lk3r]

I edited.
5 laps for super soft, they are not running super soft compound. We don't know how these handle. I expect heavy runners will start on soft compund and try and do 1 stop if they last.

It was said in either the practice or qually commentary on R5L that the softs give about 4-5 useful laps in Malaysia, after that they drop away fast.

 

[Glaucus]

It was said in either the practice or qually commentary on R5L that the softs give about 4-5 useful laps in Malaysia, after that they drop away fast.

That was referring to what happened to the tyres back in Melbourne. This compound hasn't been used before so we don't know. The teams probably do from testing over the winter.

 

[arknor]

whats the chance of rain? one stop fuel load will be destroyed if it rains while the people with lower fuel loads will benefit massively

 

[Glaucus]

encase people haven't seen it

Track


Circuit information

Length: 5.543km
Race distance: 56 laps / 310.408km

Full throttle: 65%
Top speed: 297kph
Longest flat-out section: 12s / 830m
Right/left-hand turns: 10/5

Tyre wear: Medium/high
Brake wear: Medium
Downforce level: High
Gear changes per lap: 60

Source: BMW

Strategy

Fuel use: 2.64kg per lap
Pitlane loss: 22s (extra time taken entering and exiting pits, without stopping)

Source: Williams

Tyres

2009 tyre compounds: hard, soft

Qualifying Times

1  	great britain  	Jenson Button  	22  	Brawn-Mercedes  	1:35.181
2 	italy 	Jarno Trulli 	9 	Toyota 	1:35.273
3 	germany 	Sebastian Vettel 	15 	Red Bull-Renault 	1:35.518
4 	brazil 	Rubens Barrichello 	23 	Brawn-Mercedes 	1:35.651
5 	germany 	Timo Glock 	10 	Toyota 	1:35.690
6 	germany 	Nico Rosberg 	16 	Williams-Toyota 	1:35.750
7 	australia 	Mark Webber 	14 	Red Bull-Renault 	1:35.797
8 	poland 	Robert Kubica 	5 	BMW Sauber 	1:36.106
9 	finland 	Kimi Raikkonen 	4 	Ferrari 	1:36.170
10 	spain 	Fernando Alonso 	7 	Renault 	1:37.659
11 	germany 	Nick Heidfeld 	6 	BMW Sauber 	1:34.769
12 	japan 	Kazuki Nakajima 	17 	Williams-Toyota 	1:34.788
13 	great britain 	Lewis Hamilton 	1 	McLaren-Mercedes 	1:34.905
14 	finland 	Heikki Kovalainen 	2 	McLaren-Mercedes 	1:34.924
15 	france 	Sebastien Bourdais 	11 	Toro Rosso-Ferrari 	1:35.431
16 	brazil 	Felipe Massa 	3 	Ferrari 	1:35.642
17 	brazil 	Nelson Piquet Jr 	8 	Renault 	1:35.708
18 	italy 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	21 	Force India-Mercedes 	1:35.908
19 	germany 	Adrian Sutil 	20 	Force India-Mercedes 	1:35.951
20 	switzerland 	Sebastien Buemi 	12 	Toro Rosso-Ferrari 	1:36.107

Starting fuel Loads

Grid 	Qualifying 	Name 	Weight 	Fuel (kg) 	First stint (laps)
01 	01 	Jenson Button 	660 	55 	20
02 	02 	Jarno Trulli 	656.5 	51.5 	19
03 	05 	Timo Glock 	656.5 	51.5 	19
04 	06 	Nico Rosberg 	656 	51 	19
05 	07 	Mark Webber 	656 	51 	19
06 	08 	Robert Kubica 	663 	58 	21
07 	09 	Kimi Raikkonen 	662.5 	57.5 	21
08 	04 	Rubens Barrichello 	664.5 	59.5 	22
09 	10 	Fernando Alonso 	680.5 	75.5 	28
10 	11 	Nick Heidfeld 	692 	87 	32
11 	12 	Kazuki Nakajima 	683.4 	78.4 	32
12 	13 	Lewis Hamilton 	688 	83 	31
13 	03 	Sebastian Vettel 	647 	42 	15
14 	14 	Heikki Kovalainen 	688.9 	83 	31
15 	15 	Sebastien Bourdais 	670.5 	65.5 	24
16 	16 	Felipe Massa 	689.5 	84.5 	32
17 	17 	Nelson Piquet Jnr 	681.9 	76.9 	29
18 	18 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	680.5 	75.5 	28
19 	19 	Adrian Sutil 	655.5 	50.5 	19
20 	20 	Sebastien Buemi 	686.5 	81.5 	30

 

[NathanE]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74271

Seems that Ross Brawn is very pleased and even perhaps slightly surprised by the quality of Jenson's driving.

 

[vcl_X1]

How about just 'cos wet races are always dramatic and changeable and nearly always throw up surprises? I'm confused by the assumption of fanboyism in these threads. Hamilton and Kubica are probably my favourites out of the current crop of drivers but I'd much rather watch a good race in which they do badly than a dull race in which they do well.

I'm with you on this, a good wet race beats most others regardless of who we may be baised towards/against, so long as no one gets hurt or stoopid - no names, you know who you are.

 

[vcl_X1]

Nice one Acid.

So the Brawn's are the heaviest fuelled in the top 8, Alonso could be a bit handy with all that extra if his ears don't put paid to a good outing.

WTF is Vettel upto with so little fuel - I know he's back 10 places from Quali but he's going try to come off the line like a News of the world reporter in front of a whip weilding Max!

 

[stockhausen]

Nick Heidfeld (10th on the grid) is going for an incredibly long stint.

 

[arknor]

Nick Heidfeld (10th on the grid) is going for an incredibly long stint.

unless it starts raining

 

[Duke]

Nice fuel loads

 

[JRS]

Button's really starting to show he's no journeyman.

He never was, unless you happen to subscribe to sunama's view. His talent has been masked by a few truly atrocious cars. Now he has a good 'un, he's showing his true colours. Long may it continue, as far as I'm concerned. Just as long as Ferrari get it together enough to mount a challenge for the titles....

As for Hamilton - as I've said before, he should leave McLaren. Even if it means moving to a lesser team, at least he can race without orders that compromise his integrity. If Hamilton honestly had a say in what happened RE: Australia, and decided that he agreed with the McLaren team position that he should not tell the truth, then I think that my "hatred" of him (as it was described by several of you complete and utter ****) has some justification.

For the record - I didn't "hate" Hamilton before, and I don't now. I'm disappointed, certainly. And I want to see him make a good fist of retaining his title. The way McLaren are right now, that might not be on the cards. Which is a real shame.

Even for a Ferrari fan.





PS. I know this might be taken as yet more BrawnGP glory-hunting, but **** it - GO BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



(huh, finally fell foul of the word filter)

 

[rypt]

Finally bothered to sort my Sig out, might have to tweak it to add Ferrari to it as well though :/

 

[machinauk]

well, just got back in from work so going to catch up on all the action on iplayer.

Glad Button has added another pole to his tally. Would love to see 2 wins on the bounce too, but those 2 Toyota's do have me a little worried (getting horrible flashbacks to monaco 04 and Jenson being stuck behind Trulli).

Hoping for a wet track, Buttons better feel for the car in the wet should pull him away from the chasing pack before the rest of the wet weather drivers get close enough.

 

[Stellios]

Aw man im loving this. Hamilton nowhere and Button leading the way, the F1 gods have answered my prayers

 

[[TW]Taggart]

I guess with a fuel load like vettle, he'll be paying for rain early on.

 

[Sparky]

well, just got back in from work so going to catch up on all the action on iplayer.

Glad Button has added another pole to his tally. Would love to see 2 wins on the bounce too, but those 2 Toyota's do have me a little worried (getting horrible flashbacks to monaco 04 and Jenson being stuck behind Trulli).

Hoping for a wet track, Buttons better feel for the car in the wet should pull him away from the chasing pack before the rest of the wet weather drivers get close enough.

Better feel in a car that hasnt even seen damp,let alone wet?

 

[machinauk]

Better feel in a car that hasnt even seen damp,let alone wet?

forgot about that.

oh well, i have faith

 

[Sparky]