Mallorca protests.

I was talking about the Cornwall situation at work and 2 people mentioned how locals are just as guilty, some Airbnb their places in summer and live in a van (next doors son for instance) also money talks and people will gladly accept London money for their homes , old bungalows down the gannel sold for 1 to 2 m are now taking 8k plus a week after a glass box type place has been thrown up in the plot
 
moon man said:
I was talking about the Cornwall situation at work and 2 people mentioned how locals are just as guilty, some Airbnb their places in summer and live in a van (next doors son for instance) also money talks and people will gladly accept London money for their homes , old bungalows down the gannel sold for 1 to 2 m are now taking 8k plus a week after a glass box type place has been thrown up in the plot
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Bit easier to ignore when there's the entire rest of the country to move to.

Impossible for a small island.
 
Martynt74 said:
The problem with this is that like @fez says above. That doesn't benefit the people at ground level who have no-where to live and can't afford the food. It's more difficult on an Island because in places like NY or London, the locals at least have the opportunity to move further out and maintain ties with their families etc and commute in for their jobs from more affordable areas. It's still not ideal and it's a shame anywhere nice ends up only being a habitat of the rich.

Without some kind of action it doesn't matter how many tourists go to the island because there'll be no locals there to work in shops/bars to serve them. You then end up with 2 outcomes

1 - The tourism industry dies. Then the government do what they can to attract people back again when it's too late
2 - You stop things like Air bnb's etc, limit holiday rentals to hotels/apartments and make normal residences available for residents only.
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France has a tourist tax charged by hotels, chambres d’hôtes (B ‘n’ Bs) and gites.

It’s between 1-2% of the cost of the room per night and is paid to the Department, not the region or La France.

The Commune (local village council) that the establishment sits in gets a small slice of this as well as a slice of the taxes paid by all business inside of their boundary.

Residents of Lot et Garrone are also paying a few extra Euros every month towards the upgrading of the TGV link between Bordeaux and Agen.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Good for them all the properties are being bought up by foreigners apparently don't blame the protesters in teh slightest


Fishing, agriculture therss a programme in BBC2 weekdays featuring the fishing community and they have the same woes no properties for locals anymore at least none affordable all gone to wealthy second homers and AirBNB'ers
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Fishing ?! - The Cornish fishing Fleet was decimated about 15 years ago. Compared to what it was its just a shadow now.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
France has a tourist tax charged by hotels, chambres d’hôtes (B ‘n’ Bs) and gites.

It’s between 1-2% of the cost of the room per night and is paid to the Department, not the region or La France.

The Commune (local village council) that the establishment sits in gets a small slice of this as well as a slice of the taxes paid by all business inside of their boundary.

Residents of Lot et Garrone are also paying a few extra Euros every month towards the upgrading of the TGV link between Bordeaux and Agen.
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Does that scheme include Airbnb?
 
sprite1275 said:
Anyone been or going?

Just watched on the news and some were walking down the streets spraying people having a drink outside cafes with water guns saying tourists go home!

I can see where they're coming from but what can you do when it's such a desirable tourist destination. I suppose it's the same as what's happened in parts of Cornwall and alike.
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I came back from there 3 weeks or so ago. it was fine everyone was friendly. I get it but surely they rely on the tourism. am off again in August to baby brother menorca.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
True, there are things local communities can do to fix these issues. St.Ives Cornwall is a popular place to own a 2nd home for southerns and it's popularity resulted in locals being priced out the area. Under the leveling up and Regeneration Act the local council has introduced a 2nd home tax, changes to tax law and loan interest no longer being tax deductible has somewhat stopped the issue getting worse. Even still though by people forcing locals out the area the town will loose everything that made it characterful in the first place and it just becomes another expensive sea side town.
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Horse and stable door come to mind. There are large section of the town that are nothing but holiday let's. Getting staff in the town is becoming increasingly difficult due to a lack of places for people to live.
 
wesley said:
Nope.

Owning a holiday home is becoming very popular as a business POV. I know a guy who owes 4 holiday homes in Tenerife.

Good business
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The problem is like what happens in London or Cornwall, the local people can't buy or afford houses in their local area.

It's a growing problem. I can see restrictions, especially for none citizens, being brought in.
 
They should be grateful its not immigrants instead erasing their culture and displacing them.


Taxes go up and up as the bill to foot the cost skyrockets, you end up paying for your replacements.


at least with tourists its only for a few months of the year, although I guess they still have the same housing issues, apart from not being the ones footing the bills for tourists
 
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JonRGV250 said:
Which part of what he posted is incorrect?
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I imagine it's more the drivel to detract away from the actual issue and steer it towards immigrants. Because immigrants are bad mmmkay

Whilst i'm sure he's only talking about refugee type immigrants, you could arguably say they are suffering from that exact problem as well as more expats buy holiday lets or emigrate over there.
 
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arknor said:
They should be grateful its not immigrants instead erasing their culture and displacing them.


Taxes go up and up as the bill to foot the cost skyrockets, you end up paying for your replacements.


at least with tourists its only for a few months of the year, although I guess they still have the same housing issues, apart from not being the ones footing the bills for tourists
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What’s the difference? You get low rent British people going there to the English bars, eating fry ups, steak and chips, playing bingo etc. how is that not erasing their culture?
 
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