Man sends banana to black mans table in Wetherspoons pub

[Bassmansam]

So we should not even bother trying? Full on race war, since things won't ever be perfect?

Why did you assume i meant it was just based on race?
My thinking was about any physical trait, good looking/ugly people, short/tall abled/disabled ect. There are many things people get treated differently for and to expect people to be treated equally regardless of these variables is a nice thought, but it's unrealistic.

 

[Unseul]

Where did "full on race war" come from?

If we give up on the idea that everyone can be treated equally, then we accept dickheads that send bananas, people with bad hairstyles separating families and sterilising illegal immigrants, etc etc.

 

[Unseul]

Why did you assume i meant it was just based on race?
My thinking was about any physical trait, good looking/ugly people, short/tall abled/disabled ect. There are many things people get treated differently for and to expect people to be treated equally regardless of these variables is a nice thought, but it's unrealistic.

Even then, it's surely still the idea to strive towards, and perhaps one day actually achieve. Realistic in our lifetimes? Nope, we can see from this thread alone it won't be, but in thousands of generations?

 

[CircleFaust]

Is sending bananas to black men still considered funny and acceptable?

Christ.

The land of hope and glory (featuring Jim Davidson).

Edit:

Bish-bosh, speak of the devil, here he is - the pride of modern Britain.

Spoiler: "harmless fun"

Genuinely the funniest thing since I put my shoes on.

listened to that on 2.0x speed, hilarious

 

[Diddums]

Completely agree. Also...wtf people were dumping on you for being a saffa? You've won on the accent stakes for a start!

Well, speaking Dutch with a Saffrican accent isn't the easiest task in the world

 

[Bassmansam]

Even then, it's surely still the idea to strive towards, and perhaps one day actually achieve. Realistic in our lifetimes? Nope, we can see from this thread alone it won't be, but in thousands of generations?

Absolutely we should strive towards it and it would be amazing if it did happen one day.

 

[Salsa]

You're making broad accusations of racism without addressing anything specific, accusations of racism are offensive. If you're going to make them then address posts specifically by quoting them and back up why you think that post is racist.

If you need it spelled out to you where the racism in this thread is then you're part of the problem and have illustrated my point beautifully.

/Salsa

 

[Dis86]

Well, speaking Dutch with a Saffrican accent isn't the easiest task in the world

Yeah, not something I've tried

Works brilliantly when speaking English though.

 

[Dis86]

People harping on about police resources are thick as mince.

If something is obvious and provable in an instant then the police should definitely act on it.

There is a difference between this and trying to trawl cctv to find someone with a covered face who stole a bike.

Yeah, why spend time going after criminals who cause harm to people and property when someone said mean words?

 

[Dis86]

No, you already understand what it represents. I don't agree with your interpretation and I'm not going to change your attitude over the internet. But you are part of the problem and thankfully the number of people that see this is rising. This is what needs to happen, acts like these need to be challenged and people need to understand dismissive attitudes do not help either.

Your implication is that every sexuality needs to undergo the same discrimination as the worst cases in order to qualify for protection. We don't need every race to be severely oppressed in order to protect all races, we're smarter than that.

And again...There was no oppression. There was an implication of an insult.

 

[Junglist]

Yeah, why spend time going after criminals who cause harm to people and property when someone said mean words?

Cause both are crimes. If you have a problem with that speak to your local MP and ask them to lobby remove such laws. Then you can give bananas to whoever you see fit.
Racist idiot got in trouble by breaking laws but people are mad he is getting prosecuted cause it's 'a waste of time'.

Or do you just want these things to go unchallenged? You're one step away from blaming the guy who got sent the banana. He should have just put up with it, right?

 

[Roar87]

If you need it spelled out to you where the racism in this thread is then you're part of the problem and have illustrated my point beautifully.

/Salsa

You don't want to engage anyone in debate which is typical of people with your views, you want your word to be the final say and you believe anyone with a differing opinion is simply racist. You will never sway any opinions and most people view the idea of "systemic racism" as laughable by the way.

 

[Energize]

Casual, systemic racism alive and well on OCUK forums.

Posters falling over themselves to trivialise and minimise the act or condemn the investigation as a waste of police time or simply state that people have thicker skin...

Drunk or not, the bloke knew what he was doing and that it was a racist, no amount of mental gymnastics can explain it away or justify it.

Its exactly this sort of casual racism and the lengths some will go to justify it which demonstrates that not all lives are equal in our society and that needs to change.

/Salsa

Hilarious, "systemic racism" this post made my day. This is also why no on takes the term "systemic racism" seriously.

 

[Diddums]

I think at the very least we can all agree that this was a shambolic waste of a perfectly good banana.

 

[Nasher]

If they stopped giving a ****, people would stop doing these things as they wouldnt get a kick out of it.

 

[stockhausen]

Now i know the association with black people and bananas but i don't really see how this is illegal . . .

I guess that at a time of decreasing belief in good manners and politeness let alone law and order it is not surprising that someone would fail to see that doing this was deliberately offensive.

However, I am astonished that anyone would be so "unaware" about good manners as to start a thread questioning this.

 

[Unseul]

If they stopped giving a ****, people would stop doing these things as they wouldnt get a kick out of it.

If people stopped giving a **** people would stop doing these things, because they'd not give a **** that someone else had more or less pigment in their skin.

 

[Dis86]

Cause both are crimes. If you have a problem with that speak to your local MP and ask them to lobby remove such laws. Then you can give bananas to whoever you see fit.
Racist idiot got in trouble by breaking laws but people are mad he is getting prosecuted cause it's 'a waste of time'.

Or do you just want these things to go unchallenged? You're one step away from blaming the guy who got sent the banana. He should have just put up with it, right?

As a grown adult I don't see name calling as being a criminal offence. It's what kids go to their teachers and come home crying to their parents about.

As I've pointed out several times in here there's a massive difference between being offensive and being discriminatory, threatening or harmful.

People ignore insults every day. Why couldn't this guy just be ignored? He'd have soon gone away.

 

[Junglist]

As a grown adult I don't see name calling as being a criminal offence. It's what kids go to their teachers and come home crying to their parents about.

As I've pointed out several times in here there's a massive difference between being offensive and being discriminatory, threatening or harmful.

People ignore insults every day. Why couldn't this guy just be ignored? He'd have soon gone away.

Why should he have to ignore it? Your moaning about the guy complaining and not the guy who did the act in the first place. That's who should be annoying you. Because he couldn't use his brain for 2 seconds police time and money was wasted, which you seem to care about, and a guy wouldn't have been racially abused - which I don't think you care about. Your annoyance seems misplaced.

Just because you may have ignored it doesn't mean he had to put up with it or that he was wrong for taking it to the police. What do you want, a pat on the back because you claim you'd ignore it? Good for you a suppose, may we all have as thick skin as you.

The only reason police resources were wasted from other cases was because this idiot thought of doing this. Police resources weren't wasted because he reported a crime.

edit: The joke is, had this man acted as alpha and grown up as some of you are claiming to be and sparked him out you'd then say he acted inappropriately. He can't win. Basically all he is allowed to do is take the abuse. While the abuser gets to have the time of his life at the other mans expense.

 

[Dis86]

Why should he have to ignore it? Your moaning about the guy complaining and not the guy who did the act in the first place. That's who should be annoying you. Because he couldn't use his brain for 2 seconds police time and money was wasted, which you seem to care about, and a guy wouldn't have been racially abused - which I don't think you care about. Your annoyance seems misplaced.

Just because you may have ignored it doesn't mean he had to put up with it or that he was wrong for taking it to the police. What do you want, a pat on the back because you claim you'd ignore it? Good for you a suppose, may we all have as thick skin as you.

The only reason police resources were wasted from other cases was because this idiot thought of doing this. Police resources weren't wasted because he reported a crime.

I've already passed comment on the guy that did it in the first place. Several times. In several derogatory tones!

Police resources were wasted because of 4 points. All of which are wrong.
1, the bell end that did it.
2, the guy that ran crying to the police because someone called him a name.
3, the police that put it as a priority for investigation considering everything else they have on their plates.
4, the judiciary for even making this a crime in the first place.

I'll say again, clearly, calling people names no matter the reason is unnecessary, sometimes highly offensive.
What it shouldn't be is criminal.

Discrimination, violence or threats of should be and are.