But the guy wasn't a member of a hate group. He was just a plonker in a pub. There are hate groups against football teams, should we be charging them criminally? It's farcical.
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But the guy wasn't a member of a hate group. He was just a plonker in a pub. There are hate groups against football teams, should we be charging them criminally? It's farcical.
Just to pick up on this particular point, the article included a statement from the police that the crime was solved due to "painstaking investigation" by a "lead detective".My guess is that this was an easily provable case. Low hanging fruit.
If anyone should be blamed of wasting the police's time it should be the tool that sent the fruit in the first place. It started with him
I'd say I'm surprised by people trying to justify this
Just to pick up on this particular point, the article included a statement from the police that the crime was solved due to "painstaking investigation" by a "lead detective".
Discriminating based on sexuality or disability is also illegal, and there is no history of slavery involved there.
As a society, we have decided - probably to some extent due to pressure groups/lobbying - that some characteristics are "protected", and some aren't.
Therefore you can call someone a ginger ****** all day long, and even have a sign in your shop saying "We don't serve gingers", but you can't do the same to a gay person or a black person.
Just to pick up on this particular point, the article included a statement from the police that the crime was solved due to "painstaking investigation" by a "lead detective".
That investigation may have included others working under them but this is not specified.
However if we take the police at their word, the investigation was far from trivial and tied up a lead detective officer for some time.
As said by others, when the police say they don't have resource to investigate theft, etc, then clearly there is only one conclusion to be drawn. The investigation of any act of racism is more important than the investigation of theft, etc.
I read that bit too, had a think about it, and concluded that he probably means they checked who owned the card that was used for the payment.
What a waste of time and resources.
This is why people don't take the phrase "hate crime" seriously, it's just so overused it's become trivialised.
Are you? I saw the thread when it was just the OP and thought to myself "Well, if there's one forum where he'll find a bunch of apologists willing to either downplay it or straight out deny he did anything wrong, it's the OCUK forum."
I never said he was, not even once. You are only saying it as a deflection tactic to hold an opinion no civilised society seems to agree with you on. If there were political hate groups that existed and there was a history of hatred and violence against short people, which would be a threat to short people today, Im am pretty sure they would be included in the protected group of people
No, you already understand what it represents. I don't agree with your interpretation and I'm not going to change your attitude over the internet. But you are part of the problem and thankfully the number of people that see this is rising. This is what needs to happen, acts like these need to be challenged and people need to understand dismissive attitudes do not help either.Could you explain how sending a banana to someone is oppressing them?
This isn't about discrimination, oppression or exploitation. It's nothing more than name calling.
Your implication is that every sexuality needs to undergo the same discrimination as the worst cases in order to qualify for protection. We don't need every race to be severely oppressed in order to protect all races, we're smarter than that.What long history of oppression is there against people who identify is asexual? They're protected.
Casual, systemic racism alive and well on OCUK forums.
Its exactly this sort of casual racism and the lengths some will go to justify it which demonstrates that not all lives are equal in our society and that needs to change.
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Casual, systemic racism alive and well on OCUK forums.
Posters falling over themselves to trivialise and minimise the act or condemn the investigation as a waste of police time or simply state that people have thicker skin...
Drunk or not, the bloke knew what he was doing and that it was a racist, no amount of mental gymnastics can explain it away or justify it.
Its exactly this sort of casual racism and the lengths some will go to justify it which demonstrates that not all lives are equal in our society and that needs to change.
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You are naive if you think humans will all be treated equally one day. Dream on.
Where did "full on race war" come from?So we should not even bother trying? Full on race war, since things won't ever be perfect?