Man sends banana to black mans table in Wetherspoons pub

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Bouton Aide said:
I can't get over I'm hearing this on here. I really can't. Absolutely disgusting.
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So you want anyone who says anything you find offensive banned. And thus creating your own echo chamber. Jesus Christ...


This gives me holocaust vibes, Its an intellctual holocaust that you want!!!
 
Dis86 said:
It's not acceptable but I don't think you should be prosecuted for it.
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Why shouldn't I be prosecuted for it?

We live in civilised society. I'd get prosecuted if I stood in the front street masturbating because it's uncivilised and offensive. So why should some other acts not be deemed criminal?

To add. The original news story is depressing. I find it pathetic people like that exist. But I wouldn't demand jail time unless this behaviour was constant . A fine is completely appropriate.
 
Hedge said:
People harping on about police resources are thick as mince.

If something is obvious and provable in an instant then the police should definitely act on it.

There is a difference between this and trying to trawl cctv to find someone with a covered face who stole a bike.
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Detective Inspector Stuart Hart, head of the Safeguarding Team, added: "There was no CCTV available, and it was not a straightforward matter to identify the suspect.

“This required a painstaking investigation by my lead officer, who paid meticulous attention to minor details in order to gather the vital evidence that led to this successful result.

"Hate crimes are a priority for the Met and we take all allegations very seriously."
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This crime wasn't obvious and required a "painstaking investigation".

Do you think this was an appropriate use of police resources?
I'm sure there are many victims of burglary who are relieved that some "hate crimes" are worthy of such resources rather than being wasted on analysing evidence that could identify the suspect.
 
Dis86 said:
I've already passed comment on the guy that did it in the first place. Several times. In several derogatory tones!

Police resources were wasted because of 4 points. All of which are wrong.
1, the bell end that did it.
2, the guy that ran crying to the police because someone called him a name.
3, the police that put it as a priority for investigation considering everything else they have on their plates.
4, the judiciary for even making this a crime in the first place.

I'll say again, clearly, calling people names no matter the reason is unnecessary, sometimes highly offensive.
What it shouldn't be is criminal.

Discrimination, violence or threats of should be and are.
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No. You're wrong and just seeing it from a plane of "well people should just suck it up" Guess what, people don't need to suck it up. The only point that was wrong was the point he pressed 'buy' on a banana to send to a stranger.

Stop trying to make out that someone who was the victim of something has anything to be guilty of. Had he not got sent the banana in the first place no police resources would've been wasted.

chroniclard said:
Rather than sanctioning being racist simply stop being racist thus freeing police resources for burglaries. :)
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That's the funny point of it all. Police time would never have been wasted if the idiot didn't do what he did. He is the only one to blame, he forced everyone elses hand
 
chroniclard said:
Presumably making monkey noises/throwing bananas at sports events is also ok and the athletes just need to man up.

You people are the reason BLM exists. :)
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No one has said it's okay, not ever. The alternative of allowing the government to regulate speech historically has been far worse than allowing free speech. The American founders realised this in the 1700's when they wrote their constitution because they were educated on history unlike the liberals today.
 
Disclaimer : My views are generally centre right, and politically Conservative.

Couldn't disagree with Dis86 and FoxEye more.

Defendant knew what he was doing and I'm happy with the outcome, the response was appropriate and I have no issue with the Police investigation.
 
Rofflay said:
I dont really hate people actually, And it is never illogical. Logical hatred i might be guilty of but i can rational every view i have i think. So if you think i hate black people etc i would say no best of luck to them in Africa.


Hating BLM is perfectly logical though, If it is in the UK.
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I've no doubt that it's possible to rationalise your own hatred.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I've no doubt that it's possible to rationalise your owne hatred.
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Well if you grow up in age that always said whites abroad were evil and it was bad. And then you live to see your own country experience the same migration shift and yet thiers is hailed as good and diverse you could easily rationalize hating them. I suppose you will say thats wrong?


My minds totally at ease at my own opinions After all im posting from my house that is exactly where god intended me to be with my white skin. Indeed i have never even been outside the UK ever. So its not me who is the fish out of water and out of sync with the sun and melanin system.


And thus my concience is clear, I am not the one who migrated and demands everyone accept and like me.
 
chroniclard said:
Rather than sanctioning being racist simply stop being racist thus freeing police resources for burglaries. :)
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The police admitted this case wasn't obvious, and went out of their way to collect evidence yet most burglaries don't even warrant a visit from the police, let alone an investigation, let alone a painstaking one.

I've no issue with the guy being done for racism, but when crimes like burglary are dismissed because it takes effort and resources, how long before the police take the same stance on physical/sexual assaults and instead prioritise hurt feelings?
 
Hedge said:
Why shouldn't I be prosecuted for it?

We live in civilised society. I'd get prosecuted if I stood in the front street masturbating because it's uncivilised and offensive. So why should some other acts not be deemed criminal?

To add. The original news story is depressing. I find it pathetic people like that exist. But I wouldn't demand jail time unless this behaviour was constant . A fine is completely appropriate.
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Because we live in a civilised society and people have the options of free thought and free speech, however unpleasant we may find their views.
 
Rofflay said:
I dont really hate people actually, And it is never illogical. Logical hatred i might be guilty of but i can rational every view i have i think. So if you think i hate black people etc i would say no best of luck to them in Africa.

Hating BLM is perfectly logical though, If it is in the UK.
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Rofflay said:
Well if you grow up in age that always said whites abroad were evil and it was bad. And then you live to see your own country experience the same migration shift and yet thiers is hailed as good and diverse you could easily rationalize hating them. I suppose you will say thats wrong?

My minds totally at ease at my own opinions After all im posting from my house that is exactly where god intended me to be with my white skin. Indeed i have never even been outside the UK ever. So its not me who is the fish out of water and out of sync with the sun and melanin system.

And thus my concience is clear, I am not the one who migrated and demands everyone accept and like me.
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Your posts seem to be treading rather close to indicating that you find "send them all back" to be a morally acceptable position. I will concede that Logical Hatred is actually a pretty good name for a band.
 
enkoda said:
The police admitted this case wasn't obvious, and went out of their way to collect evidence yet most burglaries don't even warrant a visit from the police, let alone an investigation, let alone a painstaking one.

I've no issue with the guy being done for racism, but when crimes like burglary are dismissed because it takes effort and resources, how long before the police take the same stance on physical/sexual assaults and instead prioritise hurt feelings?
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I was burgled a few years ago, they arrested and charged 6 people. Burglaries are not dismissed, at all.
 
Junglist said:
That's the funny point of it all. Police time would never have been wasted if the idiot didn't do what he did. He is the only one to blame, he forced everyone elses hand
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Maybe the person who put the plate on the table also thought it was funny?

Maybe they thought it was a deeply offensive and racist gesture, but carried on anyway, regardless of the offence it was likely to cause?
 
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