Man sends banana to black mans table in Wetherspoons pub

Yadda · 21 Sep 2020 at 12:31

Tefal said:
The most surprising thing about all this is wetherspoons serves fruit!?

*Snip*

"Do you serve fruit?"

"Yes sir, we'll serve anyone."

SexyGreyFox · 21 Sep 2020 at 13:01

MrMarvelous said:
Still haven't had a coherent response to my question.

Please say you are joking.

Thugs > black footballers look like monkeys > monkeys eat bananas > throw one at a black player > just a laugh, grow up and get over it.

For decades black players have just had to get on with it but why should they?
Now somebody has decided to do it on a bloke in a pub.

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 13:08

SexyGreyFox said:
Please say you are joking.

Thugs > black footballers look like monkeys > monkeys eat bananas > throw one at a black player > just a laugh, grow up and get over it.

For decades black players have just had to get on with it but why should they?
Now somebody has decided to do it on a bloke in a pub.

Why should anyone put up with anything? They shouldn't but it still shouldn't be a criminal matter. Societal change is the important bit.

DrToffnar · 21 Sep 2020 at 13:14

Diddums said:
Don't be that guy, come on. You know damn well that "grow a thicker skin" doesn't apply here, there is a whole plethora of variables which haven't been taken in to consideration.

I've already tried that argument mate, doesn't work. Ignorance is as ignorance does.

dirtychinchilla · 21 Sep 2020 at 13:36

DrToffnar said:
I've already tried that argument mate, doesn't work. Ignorance is as ignorance does.

It seems to be a wilful and determined ignorance as well.

NVP · 21 Sep 2020 at 13:54

You guys are giving too little credit to their intelligence, it isn't willful ignorance it is an excuse for superiority.

I'm pretty sure you could use this thread to quite accurately determine which users do not have friends outside of their own race.

SexyGreyFox · 21 Sep 2020 at 14:13

NVP said:
You guys are giving too little credit to their intelligence, it isn't willful ignorance it is an excuse for superiority.

I'm pretty sure you could use this thread to quite accurately determine which users do not have friends outside of their own race.

"I have a black mate, I can't be racist"

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 14:21

Diddums said:
Don't be that guy, come on. You know damn well that "grow a thicker skin" doesn't apply here, there is a whole plethora of variables which haven't been taken in to consideration.

Fundamentally though that's what it comes down to. Hurtful words.

Like I said at the start of the thread many other people have been bullied, shamed, abused because of their physical appearance. Traits they cannot choose and shouldn't change. Why should they not be afforded the same level of protection and ultimately why should hurt feelings be a crime?

Where there is no threat of violence or discrimination, implied or direct, it shouldn't be a criminal matter.

dirtychinchilla · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:04

Dis86 said:
Fundamentally though that's what it comes down to. Hurtful words.

Like I said at the start of the thread many other people have been bullied, shamed, abused because of their physical appearance. Traits they cannot choose and shouldn't change. Why should they not be afforded the same level of protection and ultimately why should hurt feelings be a crime?

Where there is no threat of violence or discrimination, implied or direct, it shouldn't be a criminal matter.

Because your desensitizing one of the most contentious and disgraceful issues in human history.

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:07

dirtychinchilla said:
Because your desensitizing one of the most contentious and disgraceful issues in human history.

And how is that any different to insults based on any uncontrolled aspect of someone's appearance? Simply put, to the individual it isn't.
Someone will feel no different to being called a monkey because they're black to being called a tramp because they have ginger hair.
The outcome should be the same for both. That outcome should not be criminal.

dirtychinchilla · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:11

Dis86 said:
And how is that any different to insults based on any uncontrolled aspect of someone's appearance? Simply put, to the individual it isn't.
Someone will feel no different to being called a monkey because they're black to being called a tramp because they have ginger hair.
The outcome should be the same for both. That outcome should not be criminal.

We've been over this in this thread. No one has been enslaved or generations of their families persecuted because they were short or ginger.

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:21

dirtychinchilla said:
We've been over this in this thread. No one has been enslaved or generations of their families persecuted because they were short or ginger.

What relevance does the past have to an individual? None whatsoever. This guy wasn't a slave, his parents weren't, his grandparents weren't. In fact it's highly unlikely he's descended from slaves at all.
Trying telling a kid who comes home crying from school every day because they're bullied about their hair, or glasses or whatever that, sorry, your feelings don't matter as much because someone 400 years ago wasn't oppressed because of it.

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:31

dirtychinchilla said:
We've been over this in this thread. No one has been enslaved or generations of their families persecuted because they were short or ginger.

Are you saying there are no Jews with Ginger hair\ short?

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:32

SexyGreyFox said:
"I have a black mate, I can't be racist"

I call BS.

You got no mates :eek:

NVP · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:18

Whilst we're on that topic again... could the abuse given to ginger people, from the playground to the workplace, become protected under some celtic race argument?

e: Wait no! Not the abuse protected, but the people. You know what I mean.

Yadda · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:23

SexyGreyFox said:
"I have a black mate, I can't be racist"

"Bernard Manning wasn't sexist - he was married to a woman."

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:30

NVP said:
Whilst we're on that topic again... could the abuse given to ginger people, from the playground to the workplace, become protected under some celtic race argument?

e: Wait no! Not the abuse protected, but the people. You know what I mean.

Lol. Good edit. Probably not as not only celts are ginger and tbh are largely extinct as a discrete population.

MrMarvelous · 21 Sep 2020 at 18:03

SexyGreyFox said:
Please say you are joking.

Thugs > black footballers look like monkeys > monkeys eat bananas > throw one at a black player > just a laugh, grow up and get over it.

For decades black players have just had to get on with it but why should they?
Now somebody has decided to do it on a bloke in a pub.

But we're all descendants from apes, no matter the creed or colour.

dirtychinchilla · 21 Sep 2020 at 18:06

Dis86 said:
What relevance does the past have to an individual? None whatsoever. This guy wasn't a slave, his parents weren't, his grandparents weren't. In fact it's highly unlikely he's descended from slaves at all.
Trying telling a kid who comes home crying from school every day because they're bullied about their hair, or glasses or whatever that, sorry, your feelings don't matter as much because someone 400 years ago wasn't oppressed because of it.

It has relevance because it led to sub-human treatment of endless Africans, and we’re still climbing back from that position.

MrMarvelous said:
But we're all descendants from apes, no matter the creed or colour.

We share a common ancestor...

Dis86 · 21 Sep 2020 at 18:09

dirtychinchilla said:
It has relevance because it led to sub-human treatment of endless Africans, and we’re still climbing back from that position.

We share a common ancestor...

It wasn't endless and it happened hundreds of years ago, it's literally beyond living memory. How far back do you want to go? And again, will you be willing to stand in front of a child, who's afraid of going back to school or to football or anywhere because they're being picked on over something beyond their control and say...tough break kid, you're not black so you don't matter?