Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***

There's appears to be an assumption it was Islamic terrorism. Until we've got some proof, don't give them the free publicity.
 
Sad thing is this morning I would turn a blind eye to kicking a 1000 doors in and arresting the lot
That really *is* sad, because it sounds exactly like how Daesh operate in towns under their control. It looks like their indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist terrorism has done exactly what they hoped - scared its targets into more indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist thinking.
 
I don't have the words to express my contempt for the scum that did this atrocity.

my thoughts are with those that lost someone last night and the people of Manchester.
 
Under the European Convention for Human Rights they have a right to a family life. We can't deport them. There are plenty of UK taxpayer funded charities and human rights lawyers ready to take their case to court.
**** the european court of human rights. These people are subhuman, they deserve no rights.
 
This, round up everyone in the list and any family they have and send them all packing. Sick of people putting the few before the many.


Isn't that exactly what you're doing there?

putting the few lives of innocent victims of terror attacks before the many innocent lives of all those families?
 
Isn't that exactly what you're doing there?

putting the few lives of innocent victims of terror attacks before the many innocent lives of all those families?
You really think the family don't know the beliefs and view of their terrorist relatives? Probably even know if they are actually planning something. They deserve to go as well for not telling anybody
 
There's appears to be an assumption it was Islamic terrorism. Until we've got some proof, don't give them the free publicity.
- Suicide bombing
- 4th anniversary of Lee Rigby's slaying
- Targetting mainly young, western girls

It's not going to be the Jehovah's Witnesses who did this...
 
You really think the family don't know the beliefs and view of their terrorist relatives? Probably even know if they are actually planning something. They deserve to go as well for not telling anybody

Yes in most cases they have no idea.
 
That really *is* sad, because it sounds exactly like how Daesh operate in towns under their control. It looks like their indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist terrorism has done exactly what they hoped - scared its targets into more indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist thinking.

I'm not sure how a civilized society combats people that will literally do anything, our laws are there to preserve our way of life for people that would normally live within those precepts, I'm not sure it can cope or be applied to these sub human animals
 
That really *is* sad, because it sounds exactly like how Daesh operate in towns under their control. It looks like their indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist terrorism has done exactly what they hoped - scared its targets into more indiscriminate xenophobic right-wing extremist thinking.

Complete rubbish comparing anything in the UK with Daesh
 
Theres more victims than
- Suicide bombing
- 4th anniversary of Lee Rigby's slaying
- Targetting mainly young, western girls

It's not going to be the Jehovah's Witnesses who did this...

Yep, we all know who did it. No one else targets women and children. Not even the IRA were that low.
 
First of all RIP to all the victims, truly heartbreaking.

How do you do that when this country has been bombing / invading eastern countries continuously for over 15 years, killing thousands of people including women and children no less valuable than the women and children killed last night?

That isn't really the full picture - simply by bombing ISIS doesn't necessarily need make us the enemy to anyone who shares their religion, especially given the sort of group ISIS is. It is unfortunately the ideology that leads some people to be hypersensitive when they see people who don't share their ideology 'interfere' within a country full of people who do share it. Ergo we've had attacks in Europe by people who come from European countries - these are simply ideological - we've yet to learn who this attacker is but as far as those other attacks are concerned we're often not talking about people who've been directly affected by western bombs killing their family but people who follow a poisonous/fundamentalist strain of a religion that could really do with changing a bit to adapt to the modern world.
 
Do you genuinely believe that we would all be living in peace had we not invaded Iraq?
ISIS would not exist had we not invaded Iraq and toppled the stable power of Saddam. Syria would not be a shell had we not toppled the stable power of Gaddafi. Life was infinitely better for it's civilians even under those dictatorial and oft-tyrannical leaderships.

Our military actions over the last couple of decades have led directly to the formation of ISIS and the breeding of mass extremism directed at the West. To deny that is just daft.

There's appears to be an assumption it was Islamic terrorism. Until we've got some proof, don't give them the free publicity.

Not sure if serious. A tweet went out 4 hours before strongly hinting at a terrorist incident.
 
Do you genuinely believe that we would all be living in peace had we not invaded Iraq?

Yes certainly (well a lot safer), we know for a fact that pretty every attack committed against the UK has been a direct result of the invasion of Iraq and other countries. In fact the attackers have gone out of their way to make this point for example

“We will not stop fighting you until you stop fighting us, an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, in our land we have to see this every day” Michael Adebolajo

"Until we feel security, you will be our targets. And until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight." Sidique Khan

Given we have tried everything and things have only gotten worse how about a new approach, completely and unequivocally remove ourselves from these conflicts most created by ourselves? Heck after getting out of Iraq we pretty much begged to go back in with the massive propaganda campaign a few years ago when all we were hearing about was Yazidis.
 
Yep, we all know who did it. No one else targets women and children. Not even the IRA were that low.

the IRA were more than a bit lax on a few occasions - especially when targeting civilian areas in general and children were sadly killed in their bombings of UK towns and cities
 
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