Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***
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The only problem here is that then there would probably be all sorts of atrocities when we pulled out, they would then hold as responsible for those and the cycle would just all start again.
They would take over the region and eventually attack us anyway.
Lets not forget this all started with Muslim terrorists attacking New York. Before that we had the Iranian Embassy shooting, the Lockerbie bomber and a number of other smaller incidents.
We are fighting a mindset who still think it's 500 years ago.
I don't think we should be held to ransom and change our entire foreign policy thanks to a few idiots carrying out attacks - it would frankly be ridiculous, if a terrorist group could change an entire country's policies that way. We've had plenty of other interventions such as Kosovo, Bosnia, Sierra Leone, the Falklands without people attacking, we didn't have Serbian or Russian orthodox Christian bombers carrying out attacks after the Kosovo campaign or Argentinian/Spanish people seeking revenge for the Falklands - the issue here is an ideological/religious one.
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Well then your deluded, people get killed over drawing cartoons, thats the threshold for violence, i've been arguing this for years on here im almost bored with saying it, but I will keep arguing becuase people like you exist everywhere.
"Manchester Bombing ‘Twitter Prediction’ Hours Before Arena Attack Sparks Frenzy Of Debate"
As for the so called freelance writers sense of humour, he deleted one of these tweets after getting (rightly) thrown to the wolves for it, but is now claiming insight with "And now I have a small insight of what Donald Trump must deal with on a regular basis #ImpeachTrump"
As for the so called freelance writers sense of humour, he deleted one of these tweets after getting (rightly) thrown to the wolves for it, but is now claiming insight with "And now I have a small insight of what Donald Trump must deal with on a regular basis #ImpeachTrump"
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It could be argued the problems wouldn't have even manifested if it wasn't for our invlovement in the first place, ISIS for example rose from the bloodbath the Iraq war was. Not that that helps now, but take France for example the vast majority of the problems began when they voluntarily got involved, prior they lived in relative peace.
ISIS may not exist in its current form, however other groups have come before ISIS and have directed attacks against non-Muslims for 10's of years. My point is that even if there was no invasion in Iraq we would still be having attacks justified against us due to us simply not capitulating to total submission to Islam, because that is the aim of most of these groups - Total dominance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups
Ironically we were on the same side as the jihadis in both Bosnia and Kosovo - read up on this subject, a good number of British jihadis went to fight the Serbs and Croats and committed terrible atrocities there. That's where the current global jihad started - they saw incidents like the Dutch UN peacekeepers stand by and do nothing at Srebrenica and thought "these guys are weak". That's what it's all about really - hatred of the West is nothing new but they didn't attack us in the past because we were strong, now that's exposed as a bit of a myth so we invite the attacks on ourselves.
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I posted about that ages ago my wife said a few lads in work showed her the twitter page saying he was going to do it, sure the post was at about 18:30.
Oops, I missed your post. tbh though, I was skipping a bit due to certain other posts.
there has been rather a lot of misinformation on this thread - yes there was seemingly a post made by an apparent ISIS supporter but I didn't think it was clear yet whether that was simply captured from a different time zone etc.. are you saying you heard about this potential attack early yesterday evening before it happened from your wife seeing that picture on twitter?
It would seem that the source I cited was correct, her husband was one of the first responders, thoughts with the family's at this time.
ohh please, 90% of the thread is speculation, as is the press.
and you really need to look at what has been confirmed, this was no speaker or balloon blowing up, nor was it only a stampede panic,
here you go.....
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Another very sad atrocity and done at a kids concert. A very sad world we live in and I am deeply saddened by this. My thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of all those affected by such an evil person.
why didn't you just say that at the time - the person you quoted criticised you as you made an unsubstantiated claim
No her work mates found it this morning and showed her, the tweet was made yesterday. I'm guessing it's been taken down now as I can't find anything. Sure someone will leak it though.
ah ok - yes it was seen last night, someone mentioned it on here as being tweeted by Tommy Robinson - problem is the actual account is suspended and it isn't clear if it is a hoax (perhaps it was from a different time zone )- we don't know for sure that someone actually tweeted in advance of the attack - this could still have been a 'lone wolf'
Another sick act.
Can someone explain to me though why it's worse when it's against children than, say, innocent nurses or taxi drivers or hairdressers? None of these people have done anything to deserve their deaths or injuries.
They're all innocents
Can someone explain to me though why it's worse when it's against children than, say, innocent nurses or taxi drivers or hairdressers? None of these people have done anything to deserve their deaths or injuries.
They're all innocents