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Mantle Feedback/Bugs

I've gone from 13.11 Beta9.5 to 14.1 to 13.12 Official..

13.11 Beta ran fine for me even on Ultra. 14.1 turned out to be a complete mess (yes i did uninstall previous drivers in the correct way etc etc).

First off with 14.1 it crashes when i hit the options menu.. found out it was the Intel graphics i had to disable but even then its a stuttery mess with frequent low dips to 30. Cant run Fraps or Afterburners OSD and i hear OBS wont even stream as a 'game' option.

So i go onto 13.12 Ofiicial and it all seems fine again.. until i hit the options menu in BF4 and hey.. it crashes again. So i disable Intel graphics so i can set my settings to how i want them and enable Intel again.

Thing is no way am i disabling my Intel HD 3000 graphics as i use this for my third monitor which i have for monitoring stuff or watching TV etc. And since just last week im now running my second monitor from my motherboard aswell as the third. Monitor one is for gaming anyway.

You'd think Mantle would actually be able to run with Intels graphics but its pretty obvious they're shunning opposition here. Lets hope they dont keep it this way but what a way to start Mantle. They should have waited longer in my opinion and had some of these things sorted out but im guessing EA might be behind all this. They usually rush everything.

I know its a Beta driver but ffs i spent hours of wasted time trying to figure out why the 14.1 Mantle driver wasnt working good for me.

At least put something like 'you will need to disable your Intel graphics and even then it may be a stuttery mess' on the bloody driver page/release notes.

Rant over. :rolleyes:
 
SiDeards73 said:
which map and what settings Atomic?
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just tested again quick seige of shanghai and in a helicopter as the gunner i was at a max of 36 FPS but it felt more than that, and the fog was so bad i could hardly see the floor until we were very close to it.

Tried to take screenshots using F7 with afterburner but it failed with these drivers?
I ALT+TAB and in window mode it showed 109 FPS at the base which i do have a screen shot of, but full screen i was getting 36 and sometimes i see it hit 21 lol Something must be a miss ?
Afterburner doesnt like these drivers, presume Afterburner needs updating or is it just my end?

Also the game then gave me a Exe stopped working error and BF4 crashed out.

PS. my intel graphics are disabled
pps. i used DDU in safe mode to remove other drivers.
 
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atomic7431 said:
just tested again quick seige of shanghai and in a helicopter as the gunner i was at a max of 36 FPS but it felt more than that, and the fog was so bad i could hardly see the floor until we were very close to it.

Tried to take screenshots using F7 with afterburner but it failed with these drivers?
I ALT+TAB and in window mode it showed 109 FPS at the base which i do have a screen shot of, but full screen i was getting 36 and sometimes i see it hit 21 lol Something must be a miss ?
Afterburner doesnt like these drivers, presume Afterburner needs updating or is it just my end?

Also the game then gave me a Exe stopped working error and BF4 crashed out.

PS. my intel graphics are disabled
pps. i used DDU in safe mode to remove other drivers.
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render.screenshot enter is a command for taking screenshots but for me they come out messed up.
 
I done the same, DDU safemode uninstall with ethernet unplugged just to be double sure lol.

Its not right for me, definitely doesnt feel right, reporting 60fps but feels a lot faster than that, even when it drops down to 40fps it doesnt even feel like its dropped fps, its very very odd.

I have only tested on Lockers so far because thats the first 64mp map i loaded up and i have a spot i use there to check the fps readings, theres a lot of snow blowing around and you get a lot of particle type effects outside so im happy that the fps outside should be low due to this but to see relatively zero difference between Mantle and DX is kinda weird, especially when Mantle takes my Starswarm follow parse from 33 or so fps upto 60 or so fps. That kinda says to me Mantle is working and that BF4 has a setting somewhere thats causing this.

Afaik i dont have Vsync enabled either, but if it was surely i would only see 60fps max ? when the map is loading it says 130fps uptop, sometimes on the interior parts of the mapi get 80fps but more often than not this chugs down to low 40's to mid 50s, and outside seems to mostly be 60fps sometimes it goes to 70 but always seems to drop and hover around 60fps.

The lines look like Mantle is working, they look smoother than DX, but DX fps are around the same as Mantle... somethings not quite right.
 
Mantle - Noticed VERY smooth game play @ 60fps in maps where Dx (win 7) struggles with my set up. After 2mins of gameplay stutter starts, and becomes more frequent the longer i play, to the point i have to switch it off.
DX, when i was trying windows 8 was smooth on every map, i've since reverted back to window 7 and DX still has frame drops, but not as bad as mantle ends up as.
When they fix the stutter this game will finally be playable....hopefully, and i wont have to upgrade to windows 8!!!
 
TBH from what i see/think
Most problems come from idiots that did not use DDU before installing Mantle drivers.

How many YEARs does one need to have AMD gpu to learn that you NEED to do DDU if you dont want to have drivers problems ??

Other people complaining are ones with 7950/7970/270x/280x not like amd said its not finished and those cards can/have problems with mantle.

But most/all people using 290/290x got gains and same problems as DX11 BF4 cause game is just ****ed each time they patch it :/
 
I agree with ^^, game runs smooth, but FPS seem off for me on my 290, DDU uninstall of previous driver in safemode with ethernet unplugged, disabled onboard gpu etc, game runs fine, fps seems off is all. Probably a quality setting or something im missing, thats why i want someone to do a like for like comparison with the same cpu / gpu at around the same settings on the same type of map, should be fairly consistent if the settings in BF4 are identical too.
 
Hey I just downloaded the new file from the AMD website but when I download I get a message saying that the file "is not commonly downloaded and not signed by it's author and may cause harm to your computer"

Is that because it's a beta driver? I've never had that message with any of the other drivers even beta ones.
 
Lord_ZED said:
TBH from what i see/think
Most problems come from idiots that did not use DDU before installing Mantle drivers.

How many YEARs does one need to have AMD gpu to learn that you NEED to do DDU if you dont want to have drivers problems ??

Other people complaining are ones with 7950/7970/270x/280x not like amd said its not finished and those cards can/have problems with mantle.

But most/all people using 290/290x got gains and same problems as DX11 BF4 cause game is just ****ed each time they patch it :/
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So are u calling me an idiot? I've never had to use any third party cleaner before and any problems i've had in the past have been very minor. This is the first major issue i've had in years and i always uninstall via control panel.

Just saying ;)
 
funt said:
Hey I just downloaded the new file from the AMD website but when I download I get a message saying that the file "is not commonly downloaded and not signed by it's author and may cause harm to your computer"

Is that because it's a beta driver? I've never had that message with any of the other drivers even beta ones.
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Yeah that's fine it's just a Windows 8 protection message. Like I think it says more info to run the program.
 
This explain why running Mantle is much smoother? Frame time is much lower.

BF4-FrameTime-Crossfire1.png
 
I have been looking forward to the driver and mantle for ages, but its just no good for me in crossfire. BF4 crashes all the time I have tried everything to fix this but its still the same.
When I try and run a benchmark in 3d mark 11 and heaven I only just get a slightly better score running crossfire as I do running a single card.
 
Im going to try this driver..But getting to safe mode in Win8 is a royal pain. Can I not just DDU in normal mode then reboot?
 
shankly1985 said:
This explain why running Mantle is much smoother? Frame time is much lower.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/BF4-FrameTime-Crossfire1.png[IMG][/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

Perhaps but you're going from very low to extremely low. I don't think that is the reason it is being perceived as being smoother.
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