Poll: Marmite or Bovril

[Feek]

Yup, I've never used the jar, I have bovril drinks from the tub.

 

[moon man]

Marmite: Yeast extract, water, salt, flavouring, spices.

Bovril: Hydrolysed vegetable protein (soy), beef stock, water, corn starch, salt, yeast extract, carmel, sugar, onion,
thickener, spices, acidity regulators, anti-foaming agent, flavouring, flavour enhancer, eggs, vitamins, iron.

Winner: Marmite

 

[robfosters]

Marmite: Yeast extract, water, salt, flavouring, spices.

Bovril: Hydrolysed vegetable protein (soy), beef stock, water, corn starch, salt, yeast extract, carmel, sugar, onion,
thickener, spices, acidity regulators, anti-foaming agent, flavouring, flavour enhancer, eggs, vitamins, iron.

Winner: Marmite

So what out of that Bovril list is damaging?

 

[moon man]

Seems to be a lot needed to make ground up cow bones palatable

 

[ik9000]

See I hate twiglets but I like Marmite.

Ditto. The smell of twiglets

Have you ever driven past the marmite factory? The stench is overpowering, nothing like marmite itself. We used to have to go past it to get to Alton Towers on school trips. Honestly I'd rather smell pig swill. I imagine the factory has gone overseas now as i think i read marmite is now imported. Shame to lose it, but the local residents must be delighted. Those that have any sense of smell left.

 

[robfosters]

Ditto. The smell of twiglets

Have you ever driven past the marmite factory? The stench is overpowering, nothing like marmite itself. We used to have to go past it to get to Alton Towers on school trips. Honestly I'd rather smell pig swill. I imagine the factory has gone overseas now as i think i read marmite is now imported. Shame to lose it, but the local residents must be delighted. Those that have any sense of smell left.

nope, still made in Burton upon Trent

 

[ik9000]

So what out of that Bovril list is damaging?

Well it has two known allergens (soy, eggs) as well as added sugar, and is that meant to say caramel? I guess his point was that marmite is far more appealing on having fewer, or more specifially no, indeterminate "enhancers and agents" in it.

 

[ik9000]

nope, still made in Burton upon Trent

Good to know, but beckons the question "why were unilever trying to hike the price due to brexit?" Import costs of the "spices"?

 

[Lysander]

So what out of that Bovril list is damaging?

Arguably the part where is says "flavour enhancer", which in this case is E631 (disodium guanylate) and E627 (disodium inosinate).

Source: https://woodsfoodservice.co.uk/stkb10-bovril-beef-extract-250g.html#:~:text=Product Information,-Download product data&text=Beef broth (50%) [water,, flavourings (contain CELERY).

 

[robfosters]

Good to know, but beckons the question "why were unilever trying to hike the price due to brexit?" Import costs of the "spices"?

The product is made in the uk, doesn’t mean the ingredients are

 

[moon man]

I used to put the flavoring into dentastix dog chews now that was a smelly job, mars paid about 34k way back in the day for trained chimp work more after basic mech training , I wasn't vegan then but iirc they are veggie
Moon man drifts off topic

 

[Lysander]

Good to know, but beckons the question "why were unilever trying to hike the price due to brexit?" Import costs of the "spices"?

Probably because the additives became more expensive.

As both disodium inosinate and guanylate are relatively expensive, they are usually used in combination with MSG, which is much cheaper to produce. Thus, any foods containing disodium inosinate and guanylate most likely also have MSG. These flavor enhancers have a synergistic relationship, and each enhances the action of the other to allow manufacturers to increase the flavor of a food while decreasing the sodium it contains.

Disodium Guanylate vs. Monosodium Glutamate | Livestrong.com

Disodium guanylate, disodium inosinate and monosodium glutamate are often added to food as flavor enhancers. They add a meaty or savory flavor to foods.

www.livestrong.com

 

[Glanza]

Bovril, local cafe has started selling these and seem to be popular with the builders instead of getting a coffee

 

[ik9000]

If that list of marmite is correct it's only flavourings and spices that are imported to the uk. The yeast culture is on-site in the factory, water and salt are both UK available. @Lysander those chemicals are in bovril not marmite sfaik.

 

[moon man]

The yeast is collected as a brewery byproduct, then proceed

 

[ik9000]

The yeast is collected as a brewery byproduct, then proceed

then processed? Ah, so if it's coming from a Dutch brewery that could make sense. If only the UK had some breweries though. It does of course, but whether they're Unilever owned breweries however...

 

[moon man]

Genuinely baffled by that but anyway
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/marstons-brewery-comes-rescue-marmite-4232046

 

[Chrisc]

Marmite is for people who were breast fed up to the age of 9. Weirdos. . .

 

[ajf]

I’ve never actually tried Bovril, and in fact, only realised from this thread it is also spreadable.
always thought it was just powder or the cubes.
Might give it a go, but winner will always be Marmite.
I had some Marmite popcorn a while back and that was fantastic. Also an advantage as no one would touch it

 

[ik9000]

Genuinely baffled by that but anyway
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/marstons-brewery-comes-rescue-marmite-4232046

it implies unilever were not sourcing the yeast locally before covid, but a lack of lateral thinking on their part when Brexit happened saw them try to take the lazy route and hike prices rather than find UK sources for the yeast. Hopefully now they've squared that circle it has put a stop to unnecessary "brexit induced" price changes