Mattresses - I need knowledge

I have a bit of an annoyance with my Sleeping Duck recently. It's got this 'hump' that keeps developing.

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It looks like it would just brush out, but it's actually quite firm, to the point you can feel it when you sit on the edge of the bed. Not so much when lying in it, so not a huge issue, but still a little annoying.

I've found it's one of the layers in the topper element.

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A couple of times I've unzipped the topper and pulled the black bit straight, but it comes back very quickly. It's as though the black bit has been stored folded in half or something?

I've just taken the black part all the way out and turned it over. We'll see if that stops it happening, otherwise it might be enough to make me think I'll order a different brand and then send this one back.
 
Just to add, i emailed Sleeping Duck today and they're sending me a form to fill out to organise the return.

No trying to change my mind/sell me anything else, just "i'm sorry to hear your're not happy with it, here's what you need to do"

Very good service, although it has made me wonder how cheap these things must be to make given the number of them popping up all the time!
 
Have ordered the John Ryan Origins 1500 mattress as a replacement. Should be here next week.

Andy - I've noticed recently that my topper has also started doing that. Did you find flipping it any better? I mentioned it as part of my reason for returning.
 
Well that settles it then, we were considering the Sleeping Duck, but after reading this thread again, not any more...
 
Andy - I've noticed recently that my topper has also started doing that. Did you find flipping it any better? I mentioned it as part of my reason for returning.

No, it still did it. In fact, the outer padded layer seemed to have the funny bump impressed into it.

They've sent me a new outer element, but I can see it's gradually doing it too.

I am thinking maybe I'll need to return it, which is quite a pain in the bum. I wonder what I should try instead?

I guess I can order the new one, wait for that, swap them over, leave the SDuck in the hallway ready to be picked up later. At least then there's no need to bring the old mattress back down from the garage.
 
Yeah that's what i've done. John Ryan have a 3 week lead time so i've delayed my return to coincide with that.

What's good is they say the collection team will take it from any room in the house so no need to struggle bringing it back downstairs, they also provide packaging. We'd been keeping the box even though we knew there was no change of it ever fitting back in but we were told to just dispose of it.
 
We bought a memory foam mattress of ebay 10 years ago. When we moved we couldnt be bothered packing it up. It weighed a ton. So we just binned it thinking we'd get another.

Can we find the same one....No, Gutted ended up getting a Ergoflex for about 3x as much. Never again. We are just deciding how which John ryan now. The first Foam was the best nights sleep we've ever had. EVERY night we would both say we loved our bed.
 
I'm looking at a Simba (if I can buy from John Lewis, I can use my discount) anyone on the thread got one?
I think @ChrisD. has one? JL should have one set up to try, and if you have a Next near you they should have an Eve (which we found slightly firmer) if it has the homewares dept.

We tried Simba and thought it was a bit too soft, was part of the reason we liked the idea of the SD.
 
I was going to order a John Ryan bed and mattress but as its a Divan bed it wont work in bedroom. Under the bed just above the skirting is a socket that we use for various things; phone chargers, alarm clock, etc. On our current wooden framed bed this isn't an issue, but I'm sure a divan bed would look odd and be pushed out away from the wall to compensate.... Anyone had the same predicament or know how much the headboard spaces the actual bed off of the wall?
 
Well, I may be sending back my Sleeping Duck, so could be interested. Thanks.

We were looking to replace a much loved Tempur we've had since they only made one type of mattress and you had to go to a special ergonomics shop to see it. As the replacement Tempur would now cost about four times what we paid, we decided to try some of the new direct-to-your-door companies instead of spending the best part of two grand on an updated Tempur.

Mattress arrived in a day or two, unrolled and expanded. It has the usual nice cover with a zip to take it off for cleaning. Most of the synthetic smell dissipated in a couple of days, though I reckon it took a couple of weeks to completely disappear so you wouldn't get the occasional whiff. The Casper has a bouncy layer on top meant to keep you cooler and stop you sinking into the memory foam underneath. It's meant to give the bed spring so you don't feel that you have to climb out of the memory foam when you move. I think the mistake they've made, is that they've built a mattress out of memory foam for people that don't like memory foam mattresses. It doesn't have that contouring effect that makes you sink into the mattress and support your body. In fact it feels like they are trying to mimic a spring mattress, except with the movement isolation you get with foam.

When lying on the bed, rather than sink into it, the surface seems to move down, like you're lying in a shallow dip, but at the bottom of the dip, you're lying on the surface of the mattress, rather than sinking into it as I would expect from memory foam. This meant that lying on my front, I felt I was in a shallow "U" shape with my head and feet higher. On my side, I felt pressure points on my hip, ribs and shoulders. Somehow they've made it soft enough to bend under you, yet hard enough that you don't get supported. My wife said it was much more comfortable on her back, but she didn't like it much on her side or front either, and said that as the mattress broke in over a couple of months, it got softer and less supportive for her.

After about a month I started grumbling about back and shoulder pain, started waking up for an hour or two or generally having very broken sleep (I'm a light sleeper). On a few occasions I've woken up extremely hot in the middle of the night, and even with numbness and tingling in my leg where I presume the mattress put pressure on my hip. When on my side, I felt like I wanted to roll forwards, or that I was in a dip and had a hump in the mattress between me and the wife. The edge is very soft, and although Casper say the mattress is designed for sleeping rather than sitting, if you put your head, arm or feet near the edge, it will compress a lot and make you feel like it's trying to turf you off.

Our old divan is a bit worn, so I put some big boards down to level it out, and that did help slightly, but the characteristics of the mattress are not what you would expect from memory foam, and I wouldn't have chosen it if I'd had a chance to test one in a shop. It's just too bouncy, not supportive enough, it doesn't contour to the weight put on it. It's somehow too soft and too hard at the same time. We chose to ask for a return today after two months, and they've given us a pickup on Wednesday. Assuming that all happens as scheduled and the refund is prompt, I've (so far) not any complaints about dealing with Casper as a company. They seem to be contactable, prompt and get deliveries/returns done quickly.

Now, I'm not saying the Casper mattress is a bad product, just that it's not suitable for us. Many people give it good reviews, but although it's made of memory foam, it doesn't feel like it. The wife and I went to Tempur for a reason (back when they were the only memory foam mattresses) and we like it a lot. Taking away all the unique characteristics of memory foam seems a bit pointless in a memory foam mattress, and really did not suit us.

We have got a Leesa ordered, as that seems to have a better ventilated top layer (Avena synthetic latex with airways), and seems to show more contouring when you press down into the memory foam layer. The layers are also thicker than Casper's. It's possible I was swayed by Casper's marketing as it was between that or the Leesa, and now I realise that marketing is very, very important for these web based mattress companies, and even the reviews interpret individual comfort quite differently.

The 100 day trial these companies offer is definitely worth driving like you stole it. Just walking around your local John Lewis or Dreams will show you that foam mattresses vary vastly in how they feel, and only by testing one can you decide if you like it. It's not just the material that will tell you how a mattress feels, but the product they have decided to make, and the characteristics they wanted to design into it.

I'll let you know what I think of the Leesa in a couple of weeks, though I'm hoping it's more Tempur-like, or else we're going to have to spring big bucks for another Tempur.
 
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Well my SD will be going back also, although it is extremely comfortable since the firm topper went on, I'm just waking up soaking wet every morning, foam is way too hot for me.

Chucked my Ikea £80 bag of springs back on just to check, and to be honest it really isn't that bad, it's about the same firmness but loads cooler.

Bit of a quandary now as to whether to bother trying another or just stick with what I've got and keep the money, I thought spending £500 it would be a massive step up from a cheap open spring mattress, seems I need to do some testing. Certainly won't be going for any of the other bed-in-a-box jobbies as they all seem to be foam.
 
I’ll let you know how I get on with the John Ryan. Have been very impressed with all contact with them so far but that was the same with SD

I’ve gone for whither end JR but they do sone similar price to the sleeping duck. Says a lot when 3 of us got one within a week of each other and all are going back!
 
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