Mattresses - I need knowledge

We were looking to replace a much loved Tempur we've had since they only made one type of mattress and you had to go to a special ergonomics shop to see it. As the replacement Tempur would now cost about four times what we paid, we decided to try some of the new direct-to-your-door companies instead of spending the best part of two grand on an updated Tempur.
Interesting, Thanks,

How long did you have the Tempur ? I wondered if they ever wear out, my relations have one that is still good >10 years.

Are there any serious competitors to Tempur yet for a 100% memory foam mattress (?) -
my thinking is if the casper has a memory foam layer 1/4 of the depth of a tempur, it will probably be 25% off the price, considering that as the most expensive ingredient.
 
My guess would be that the headboard would space it a similar distance anyway so doubt it would look stupid. Especially if you just have a standard plug on an extension lead and not some huge adaptor.

Unfortunately the socket sticks out about an inch or so from the wall. Whoever did the re-wire didn't recess the sockets into the wall, so they are instad on it, if that makes sense? About a foot up. If no one knows/remembers I may call them tomorrow to ask them. Essentially I want to know how far off the wall the headboard spaces the actual bed base from John Ryan.

My current bed is wooden framed and the only bit that goes to the floor are the legs. The Divans are a solid piece...
 
Interesting, Thanks,

How long did you have the Tempur ? I wondered if they ever wear out, my relations have one that is still good >10 years.

Are there any serious competitors to Tempur yet for a 100% memory foam mattress (?) -
my thinking is if the casper has a memory foam layer 1/4 of the depth of a tempur, it will probably be 25% off the price, considering that as the most expensive ingredient.

It's probably something like 14 years old. You're supposed to replace them at 10, but we've been lazy. My wife's side is now notably softer. Not only is she (ahem) a bit heavier than me, she also spends more time in bed, and it's got to the point where she wants it refreshed for the sake of her back. It's worth mentioning that we've sent back a brand new Casper and are back on the worn out Tempur, and we both think it feels better.

Tempur are not 100 percent memory foam. Like all foam mattresses, they have a support layer at the bottom that is not memory foam. Tempur (and others) tend to have one or two "comfort" layers on top for cooling, spring, and then memory support foam, then the base layer that it all sits on. There's no point making the whole thing of memory foam if you're only going to sink six centimetres into it. It's worth noting that Tempurs often have more memory foam than others (ie 14 cms on the Elite, vs 10 cms on the Leesa, and less on the Casper).

The fact is that Tempur is the Rolls Royce of memory foam mattresses, if that is what you want. They were there first, and they've got the name and charge a big premium. They define that memory foam squishiness. They also do many different models with a different feel for those that do not want the pure memory foam experience. You can go into any big Dreams or John Lewis and try them out, which again is another excuse for their price premium. Tempur do a 100 day test if you buy direct, but they seem to be charging significantly more to buy direct (as in £700 more expensive than John Lewis :eek:)

I hope there are other mattresses that will get me most of the way to that Tempur feel at a fraction of the price. Unfortunately, some of those brands (like Bear) are only available in the US. If you're going to spend that much money to import a mattress that loses it's 100 night test when shipping outside of the US, you might as well buy Tempur, it'll probably work out cheaper.
 
Unfortunately the socket sticks out about an inch or so from the wall. Whoever did the re-wire didn't recess the sockets into the wall, so they are instad on it, if that makes sense? About a foot up. If no one knows/remembers I may call them tomorrow to ask them. Essentially I want to know how far off the wall the headboard spaces the actual bed base from John Ryan.

My current bed is wooden framed and the only bit that goes to the floor are the legs. The Divans are a solid piece...

Ah, that sounds like it would be an issue then. Pretty much all divans use the same method of attaching a headboard which involves a big headed bolt which clamps into fork like legs of the headboard. I'd hazard a guess of only an inch or so.

There will be some give in the fabric though so it may stretch around the plug

What you could do, is to cut the material at that end of the divan to allow the socket to go into the frame. Assuming the bed will only ever be against that wall then you wouldn't see, but having said that it's not something i'd want to do!
 
Unfortunately the socket sticks out about an inch or so from the wall. Whoever did the re-wire didn't recess the sockets into the wall, so they are instad on it, if that makes sense? About a foot up. If no one knows/remembers I may call them tomorrow to ask them. Essentially I want to know how far off the wall the headboard spaces the actual bed base from John Ryan.

My current bed is wooden framed and the only bit that goes to the floor are the legs. The Divans are a solid piece...


I've had a couple of divans now and they seem to be set up so that when the base is pushed to the skirting board the headboard is up against the wall. If your sockets stick out further than the skirting then you'll have an issue.

Choices are not buying a divan, cutting it or getting the sockets recessed (although there may be a reason why they aren't).
 
Ah, that sounds like it would be an issue then. Pretty much all divans use the same method of attaching a headboard which involves a big headed bolt which clamps into fork like legs of the headboard. I'd hazard a guess of only an inch or so.

There will be some give in the fabric though so it may stretch around the plug

What you could do, is to cut the material at that end of the divan to allow the socket to go into the frame. Assuming the bed will only ever be against that wall then you wouldn't see, but having said that it's not something i'd want to do!

Yep, similar to what I thought. I guess i'll just keep the wooden frame I've got, fix the 1 broken slat and board over it as per JohnRyan recommendations. I don't like the thought of the socket being encased due to a potential fire hazard, etc. Thanks.
 
I've had a couple of divans now and they seem to be set up so that when the base is pushed to the skirting board the headboard is up against the wall. If your sockets stick out further than the skirting then you'll have an issue.

Choices are not buying a divan, cutting it or getting the sockets recessed (although there may be a reason why they aren't).

Agreed, no idea why the sockets aren't recessed but most in the house are like it. The walls are all solid brick walls so I assume they just took the easy option and not chisel the walls!

As above, i'll stick with my wooden frame and save myself some money by over boarding the slats for a solid base. Thanks for your reply :)
 
Yep, similar to what I thought. I guess i'll just keep the wooden frame I've got, fix the 1 broken slat and board over it as per JohnRyan recommendations. I don't like the thought of the socket being encased due to a potential fire hazard, etc. Thanks.

You should check out IKEA for slats. IIRC they do three different types that sit in a frame, so you can replace all your slats at once if you want.
 
fix the 1 broken slat and board over it as per JohnRyan recommendations.
(did I miss a post?) Are the slats you have very widely spaced such that JohnRynan thinks they might damage the mattress -
the slats I have, and have replaced a few (from the likes of B&Q) have < 1" gaps, I always though this gave the base some give and airation to mattress, that a solid base would not.

which of the Ryan beds are you considering ? I was looking at the Latex ones eg Fusion 6,
since I have found full memory a bit hot (trying Tempur at a relations) but thought that compared to the dieing pocket I now have/like latex may provide good support/something different
 
You should check out IKEA for slats. IIRC they do three different types that sit in a frame, so you can replace all your slats at once if you want.
Hi,
Just had a look on their website and saw them, but they all appear to be sprung slats which JohnRyan said to me on the phone were not a good option.... not sure why though?
 
(did I miss a post?) Are the slats you have very widely spaced such that JohnRynan thinks they might damage the mattress -
the slats I have, and have replaced a few (from the likes of B&Q) have < 1" gaps, I always though this gave the base some give and airation to mattress, that a solid base would not.

which of the Ryan beds are you considering ? I was looking at the Latex ones eg Fusion 6,
since I have found full memory a bit hot (trying Tempur at a relations) but thought that compared to the dieing pocket I now have/like latex may provide good support/something different

Just had a look on B&Q website and couldn't find any.... On the phone they said 1 inch or less was fine for a slatted base, I just thought getting a new base would have been a good option but due to sockets, have changed my mind.
 
I just went to the wood merchant with my measurements and they cut them for me, bought them home and dropped them on, countersunk and screwed them down.

I wanted wider slats than could be bought off the shelf so to speak, plus it means I needed fewer of them.
 
(did I miss a post?) Are the slats you have very widely spaced such that JohnRynan thinks they might damage the mattress -
the slats I have, and have replaced a few (from the likes of B&Q) have < 1" gaps, I always though this gave the base some give and airation to mattress, that a solid base would not.

which of the Ryan beds are you considering ? I was looking at the Latex ones eg Fusion 6,
since I have found full memory a bit hot (trying Tempur at a relations) but thought that compared to the dieing pocket I now have/like latex may provide good support/something different

Isn't the issue that you have weight on top (you) pushing down on a spring the may be unsupported at the bottom. Or half on half off a slat.

Newtons third law


Maybe?
 
Maybe yes ;) but I would expect there to be sufficiently robust material betwen the springs and mattress base to avoid a spring going through a 1" gap.


Maybe not new, but Eve are now TV advertising as a which best buy winner - don't subscribe to which, but I guess which do not do a tear-down off mattresses.

Interesting eve thread here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5253405&page=3#topofpage including

  • 16th May 17, 12:21 PM
The Telegraph's Business Correspondent doesn't pull any punches talking about Eve. This article below is about their upcoming float and massive losses as a company. It costs them £250 to sell every mattress thanks to their marketing! 15% of customers return them. For those thinking they're getting a 10 year warranty with Eve mattress, think again. They might not be around next year at this rate!

Eve? You’d do better to stuff money under a mattress

There’s an old episode of The Simpsons in which Ranier Wolfcastle, a musclebound Teutonic action star, is interviewed about his new film. It’s an $80m production that he describes as “just me in front of a brick wall for an hour and a half”.

His exasperated interviewer, a highbrow film critic, demands to know how he sleeps at night. Wolfcastle deadpans: “On top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies.” One wonders whether the people behind the stock market debut of Eve Sleep, a mattress seller that is raising £35m on Aim, might give a similar response if they were being candid. They must have been in dreamland when they put a £140m valuation on a company that made sales of just £12m last year.

Forget about profits and dividends “in the short and medium term”. Eve, which delivers vacuum-packed slabs of foam that top out at £950, says it want to spend all its earnings on marketing to increase its share of a fluffed up and absurdly defined “European sleep market” that it claims is worth £26bn. Eve-branded pyjamas and furniture offer massive opportunities for growth, we’re promised. Not that there are any earnings. It made a loss before tax of £11.3m last year, up from £1.5m over the previous 15 months .....

this also says where they sell the 15% returned mattresses
 
Had a lie down on an Eve Mattress yesterday in Next Home. Certainly felt like it had a similar amount of support as the current pocket sprung mattress i have (minus the dip in the middle!) I see as well they have £100 off on their website at the moment although curiously enough the mattress (double) is £599 on their website but in Next it was £525! Think I'll get one ordered up along with a couple of pillows to go with it.
 
saw another review of Eve/Leesa

I was thinking of trying the Eve, then I see they prefer the Leesa... then I see they have a discount code you can use to buy a Leesa and I'm now wondering how impartial their review is?

**EDIT** Any thoughts on this list - http://www.independent.co.uk/extras...side-sleeper-kids-review-tempur-a6950396.html

I'm now wondering about the Casper again, which was the one that originally got me thinking about a new mattress.

In the above link they also mention front sleepers might want something a little firmer, the first one of their list that is a little firmer is the Leesa again. What annoys me there, I bought new deep fitting sheets and the Leesa is quite a thin mattress!
 
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