May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’
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How can you find something that doesnt exist? You can look as much as you like, but the result is clear - There is no God.
People who believe in God also dont need to read anything from the bible / torah / quran, their belief just exists as completely irrational and insane reason.
have you?
Have you read anything outside of the fairly plagiaristic Abrahamic religions?
I consider myself quite lucky that although my Dad was kinda religious, he never spoke about what he believed in and let me come to my own conclusions. It's just a shame that now I've got an interest in religious stuff he's not around to ask him about what he believed.
I've got no problem at all with belief/faith but my major issue is when it becomes organised into a religion. It seems too easy for any one religious leader to spout any old nonsense and have it believed.
I'd love to see Churches/Mosques/Temples/Whatever become places where people get together to talk about their beliefs in free and frank discussions rather than have someone stand at the front and tell the congregation that their interpretation of their particular book is the right one and everyone else is wrong. Priests should only be allowed to referee the discussions without giving their views.
Yo Tefal,
let me give you a Fact which maybe help you find some truth.
25-30-% of Hadith are made up, and assigned to Mohammad,
in order to prove this Hadith is 100% belong to him, you need to provide the page number of the book, source, the author, the historical print of the book and the entire Tree of the people who passed this Hadith to our generation.
the reason behind this:
Mohammad enemies were very rich at that era, after he died they started spending money to buy (Respected) people with big names in the Arabic world. The main reason was to change the Hadith from its original meaning into evil meaning which allow humans to do evil things to each other. and then point it to the Prophet.
in other words, you can't just CTRL+C then CTRL+V any Hadith you see on the net and point it to the Prophet.
i beleive in one god not the gazillion that some people have decided to create
prove god doesnt exist.
How do you know that your one God is real, but none of the others are?
read to quran, and i dont mean google it. read it with an open mind and that will be your proof for god
are you 12?
Im not stupid enough to believe in whatever I read.
I did read a book saying that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything, and that global warming is caused by there not being enough pirates, so I suppose that must be true just because its written in a book, at least according to your logic.
Nope, the picture just makes a brilliant point. How do you prove that something doesnt exist? You actually cant do that as to disprove something it first needs to have actually been proven (which God has never yet been in thousands of years of human civilization).
You've dodged the argument perfectly, as you religious folk always do... The same way as you need to dodge "the facts" I assume too...
I've pointed our some very clear and logical issues with religions view on how we are tested during our life, and if you end up in heaven or hell due to this test, and not a single religious individual has come close to even attempting to try and rationalise these issues. Why? Because they can't... Instead we get questions instead of an answer...
I dare just one of you to explain to me the disparity in ones likelyhood to believe dependent upon where or when you were born? How is that fair? Explain to me how some individuals are not even tested and go straight to heaven (eg: a young children that die).
Why has God given me the mindset, and the life events, that make me think it's impossible for him to exist? While others he's given the mindset and life events to make them accepting?
Why had God supposedly even spoken to some people, or allowed miracles to happen convincing them? We have another set of individuals basically given a free pass to heaven. Hardly fair on the others is it!
The system is crooked, so how can it be fair? If it's not fair then it's cruel. Why would an all loving God design a cruel/unfair test?
What's more likely an all powerful God comes out of no where, and creates a Universe so perfect it disproves his existance. He then hides from us and designed a test that is unfair that billions of souls go to eternal agony in Hell, just because they weren't born in a different place or time?
Or, there is no God?
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That doesn't mean that your particular god is the right one though.
I could say exactly the same thing about the bible or torah.
Why do you dismiss other books and accept yours as the right one? Not having a dig genuine question.
you with people like you there is no point in having a disscision. You have already made up your mind that you hate islam or all religions so all you do is throw insults.
It will not hurt you to read the quran and if your faith is so strong (as in you dont belive there is no god) the nothing for you will change
What do you have to lose..nothing
we do not dismiss other books. we believe the bible was given to jesus and torah to moses. After these prophets (peace be upon them) left the world mankind changed them to suit there own desires
The part i quoted is a quranic verse not from a hadith.
I specially made sure not to use a hadith in the post to avoid such a statement.
Perhaps you should read your quran more carefully?
My precious time will not be wasted eading a boring, pathetic and ridiculous book such as the Quran.
Why do you even care about constantly telling people to read a worthless book just because you chose to believe in it? Simply insane logic in my opinion, just like all religious folk have.
Actually, thats quite easy.
Kill yourself.
You'll see (or rather.. you wont!) that god doesnt exist.
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