of course, murdering is a sin against all humanity, except when god wants some killin' adoin' then it's just dandy!
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of course, murdering is a sin against all humanity, except when god wants some killin' adoin' then it's just dandy!
Now lets make that true.. (or at least actually feaseable)
Mohammed (just an ordinary man) only felt moved to fight when he got really high on peyote (thanks Tefal!) and allah the magical unicorn ordained it nesscary at the particular time in saudia,anything the stoners did was by will of Allah the magical unicorn,they (the stoners) are the meduim of Allah the magical uncorn to the people.
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So do you think the men who plotted to kill the danish cartoonist were told to do so by god or will they be going straight to hell. In your own opinion?
Guide us into fits of laughter.
Source on this?
Or are you talking about assisted suicide and trying to misrepresent it as an extreme form of eugenics?
Yeah they don't kill the sick, but they will have you stoned to death or being a bit easy.
But only if you're a woman.
nah don't think you get shrooms in the desert to dry and bright.
Think you get peyote though.
So was Mohammed given permission to rape and pillage these people as well?
The act of murder is the same no matter 'who' said it was to be committed.
You are still a man taking another mans life so surely in your laws you should still be punished for this, or is it all about getting the holy kills that god has demanded...like getting nectar card points? all redeemable for rewards in the end??
If i started to rape pillage and murder in the name of 'A holy unicorn' would this be just?
Who did he rape exactly??...any proof of this so called rape??...or are we going back to people just making up things to support their arguements??
There is plenty of speculation and articles based around the fact that he did marry a young girl Aisha in the year 624AD.
Theres nothing to disprove this so obviously it must be true!
quick google gives
but from a crappy source honestly can't be arsed to check further.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-rape.htm
That and a load of stuff about captive women being sold as slaves and other stuff.
Yeh he married her which doesnt equate to raping her is it??.
You can rape your wife.
although under current law regardless of consent it would be statutory rape.
Hmmm interesting but that doesnt say anything about raping a woman...quite clearly states that these people didnt want to have sex with these women of the captured men.
Again mis-interpreting the Quran to support dubious claims at best.
Probably but then in those days our laws wouldnt have applied...it was a free for all from what i have studied...also remember its all fine and dandy to accuse the prophet Muhammad[pbuh] as a rapist etc etc but the people who were actively persecuting him and his people were also raping and pillaging as well.
Regardless i dont think he can be accused of raping her.
it says they didn't want to have sex with them in front of their husbands (because they can't have it off with another man wife under Islamic laws) but where then told
It's ok because they're captives.
So unless the women where willing (which is unlikely) it would be rape.
tbh it seems very much like you're the one misrepresenting it there.
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If you do these deeds to be rewarded and not punished then that is the reasoning behind doing them, the intetion. So surely it's not longer a good deed for the sake of it but instead it's for selfish reasons.
Besides, no matter how many good deeds I carry out, for no other reason than that they are the right thing to do, it won't mean squat to god because I don't believe in him and I'm going to hell.
Again, the reason behind doing these deeds isn't selfless, the reason for these deeds is following laws that will get you into heaven. That's selfish in a way and as you said that it was the intentions that mattered and not the deed itself, then these deeds are in fact not helping you to get into heaven.
Just because there was no written laws in respects to rape back then does not mean it couldnt happen.
Rape refers to the act of sex against either partys will.
Im sorry but for one a young girl forced to marry would not be consenting by choice.
and obviously what Tefal just stated.
Quite...im only saying how i see it...whether you see that as mis-interpretation is up to you to decide...much like how i see your post mis-interpreting the verses.
Age old problem is that everyone will interpret things differently...
so how do you interpret
three full translation of the verse
Presumably you know hoe to reference these against hadiths for context, cause i can't be bothered the book really is poorly written at times.
General consensus seems to be slaves and captives.
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Im not saying rape didnt happen...i mean hell it happened well before prophet Muhammads[pbuh] time to be fair so its only exclusive to him and his people.
Again no evidence says that she was forced to marry him...its hard to tell if she was or wasnt as theres no solid proof if she did so with her own free will or not. And heres the thing...again it wasnt uncommon for young girls to get married back then. It still happens in India/pakistan, countries in Africa etc etc now.
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