I've read various interpretations of it, I want to know how you read it.
After all if you don't think about your book but relay on others interpretations of it you'll be misled
Much like you claim the suicide bombers have been
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I've read various interpretations of it, I want to know how you read it.
After all if you don't think about your book but relay on others interpretations of it you'll be misled
Much like you claim the suicide bombers have been
Whilst this is true in its own context it is very far from true when you look at the big picture.
As someone who is utterly "godless" and "free of religion" i can clearly see you dont understand my perspective.
Every action i make in my life will have an effect on the rest of time. Just take a simple concept such as the butterfly principle and think about it for a moment.
Even nature "knows" that there is no afterlife and no god, its built into the way we have evolved.
We obtain immortality through our children, and through those we influence around us.
Unfortunatly for the vast majority of humans, they dont realise this, even on the most superficial level.
Instead they focus only thier own lives, and their own selfish hopes of an afterlife. Even this they are not certain about, so they seek to corupt others to strengthen their own hopes that they can live forever when clearly they are not worthy. No-one is.
Religion is corrupting cycle of damnnation that serves only to prevent humanity from accelerating its own development in the real world, instead focusing it on empty lies of false hope for self gratification.
And I'll ask again:
But surely your just taking their word as being gospel (for want of a better word). These scholars are men so are fallible, how do you know their interpretations are correct?
Neither can you see, smell, taste or feel... your brain. That clearly doesn't exist then?
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You keep raising the same point over and over, and if I try to view things from a non muslim mindset I do understand your question. However, you need to try and look at this from the mindset of someone who believes in God.
You have stated over and over that your circumstances have made it impossible for you to believe in God. Your circumstances are a hell of a lot better then the majority of the people in this world, therefore first and foremost you have so much to be thankful to God for, because as you have repeated many times... you had no say in the circumstances you were born into. I have no doubt that there is something stopping you from believing in God, but all your questions are actually answered in the Quran itself.
It is true that everyone is tested differently, however God never places a burden on a soul greater than it can bear. Some people are weaker then others, some are stronger, some have more compassion in their hearts some have less. God alone is perfect, and He alone will judge between His creation.
002.118 (Quran)
YUSUFALI: Say those without knowledge: "Why speaketh not Allah unto us? or why cometh not unto us a Sign?" So said the people before them words of similar import. Their hearts are alike. We have indeed made clear the Signs unto any people who hold firmly to Faith (in their hearts).
PICKTHAL: And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure.
SHAKIR: And those who have no knowledge say: Why does not Allah speak to us or a sign come to us? Even thus said those before them, the like of what they say; their hearts are all alike. Indeed We have made the communications clear for a people who are sure.
(3 translations of the same verse)
There are verses already stating the excuses that people will use once the reality of things becomes apparent to them. It tells you what the signs of God are, and how to remove the veil over your heart which is blinding so many people. You need to read the english translation of the Quran fully, with an open mind (not having made your mind up before you touch it), and God willing all your questions will be answered.
The question in this thread is not about Muhammed pbuh waging war on the unbelievers or marrying Ayesha, it is the validity of his claim of being a prophet of God. That is the only thing being disputed really because if you believe in Moses, Noah, Soloman, Jesus, Muhammed peace be upon them all, then you know whatever they did was commanded to them by God therefore you have no hesitation in accepting it.
If you knew without any doubt that God existed, if you knew this, and you knew they were His prophets, you also would not dispute anything they said or did.
i havnt come accross what exactly you have asked. but i know this for example if you do something bad then something bad will happen to you.
e.g some people are benefit fraudsters and they think they get away it. they may fool the giverment but allah will take that money away from them some other way. e.g they may get increased utility bills or they may have to spend more to make ends meet.
they may even recive the benefits and they dont even realise where they have spent it becuase they spent it so quickly
if you do good then good will happen to you
Neither can you see, smell, taste or feel... your brain. That clearly doesn't exist then?
My brain has also been MRI and CT scanned, and I've seen it both times.
Now show me god please.
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the main points islam all the scholers have the smae interpretation for example one god and following the life of muhammad (pbuh) they only differ on things like the sighting of the moon
whichever scholer you go to you will they almost have the same interpretation
So what bad will happen to me for drinking alcohol and having sex outside of marriage?
well we believe a person will be punished for it hell. i dont know the exact punishment. same for muslims if they drink they will also be punished
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Does this fact not worry you at all? this is a topic from which you are choosing to spend your 70+ years (hopefully) of life devoted to and you need special academics to interpret things for you.
This is exactly why humanity is in this situation.
Neither can you see, smell, taste or feel... your brain. That clearly doesn't exist then?
You've got some serious problems then mate.
You're brain weighs a lot and can be felt in the slight delay in momentum when you rapidly move your head and stop suddenly, that and i've seen mine on an MRI.
But at home you can test you too have a brain by having a mate uppercut you with a boxing glove on.
If he does it right the movement of your brain will cause you to lose conciousness.
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Wow. So 90% of humans are going to hell. Cool!
Including all the Christians who drink 'Holy Wine' in their church.
no its not becuase the scholers all have the same opinions on the core elements of islam they only slightly differ on things like sighting of the moon for the months etc..
There is Karma in the sense that, ultimately the scales of justice have to be balanced out.
That is why there are good people suffering, that is why there are bad people getting away with everything. They are not escaping from anything because everyones good and bad deeds will be brought forward, and whichever way the scale tips, will determine the outcome of that person.
So much so that even an atoms weight of good or evil, will be brought forward.
So are you saying that if we can't see or hear or smell something, it definately doesn't exist?
Could you explain that please? I don't understand what you mean?
So what's your interpretation of that verse?
And what is the "scholars" unified opinion (because i bet there's quite a lot of disagreement about this one.)
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