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So why does God also keep making gay people? Seems a bit cruel don't you think? Born to go to hell?

Maybe you can tell me because i dont know...ill be sure to ask God when i see him sometime in the near future:p....i mean i will ask him why did he create a human who likes to eat da poo poo:p.
 
Dont know about that ie people being born gay in all honesty....saying that im not too clued up on what makes a person homosexual or not.

None of the gay people I know made a decision to be gay. Much like I didn't make a decision to be heterosexual or to like brunettes or whatever. As far as nature/nurture goes, nature seems to be winning as to why people are gay.
 
Maybe you can tell me because i dont know...ill be sure to ask God when i see him sometime in the near future:p....i mean i will ask him why did he create a human who likes to eat da poo poo:p.

More interestingly, why did you edit out the comment about gay people?

And my answer is easy "Because he doesn't actually exist and your book is mostly nonsense"?
 
Actually I can see (and have answered in post 2571) how marriage can help stop STDs so that one isn't quite so nonsense.

It isn't about getting marrried, it is about not having sex until you get married. If both partners do not have sex until they are married then the chances of either getting an STI are pretty low. The more promiscuous you are the more likely you are to get get an STI. So abstinence does indeed work, but only if both partners do it.

That is based on the incorrect assumption that people who are not yet married and having sex means that they are promiscuos and polygamous.

You seriously dont believe that to be the truth do you?

Most people these days enter a monogamous sexual relationship with one partner, but they do not marry for many many years later. Two of my friends have been together for over 7 years, even have a child, but have never married or even engaged.

Now if they were to get married, how does this alter their chances of getting STDs in anyway? Do you (or anyone else) view them to be promiscous whores because they have a child outside of marriage, but are still living as a family and raising the child together?

From what I were told, they are both bisexual atheists who do not believe in marriage, and completely refuse to have it, but they are monogamous.
 
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Dont know about that ie people being born gay in all honesty....saying that im not too clued up on what makes a person homosexual or not.

Research confirms 'gay gene' discovery

A proclivity for homosexuality which some men carry on the X chromosome they inherit from their mothers is confirmed by the latest work, published in Nature Genetics, Dr Hamer said. "You can never say we're 100 per cent sure but we're twice as sure as before. We are better than 99 per cent sure that it's not a fluke."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/research-confirms-gay-gene-discovery-1580244.html
 
That is based on the incorrect assumption that people who are not yet married and having sex means that they are promiscuos and polygamous.

No, it is based on the assumption that the more sexual partners you have the more chance there is of picking up an STD and so if you only had one sexual partner and they only have one sexual partner your chances drop significantly.

You seriously dont believe that to be the truth do you?

I have absolutely no information either way and so am not going to leap to unfounded conclusions. To do so would make me just as bad as those religious people you keep going on about...:)

Most people these days enter a monogamous sexual relationship with one partner, but they do not marry for many many years later. Two of my friends have been together for over 7 years, even have a child, but have never married or even engaged.

Maybe the do, maybe they don't. I only have anecdotal evidence and we all know how reliable that is (i.e. It isnt at all) and most of my friends have had more than one sexual partner.

Now if they were to get married, how does this alter their chances of getting STDs in anyway?

It doesn't alter their chances whatsoever. But as we are talking about generalisations rather than specifics if everyone waited until marriage until they had sex then the number of STDs would drop significantly.
 
None of the gay people I know made a decision to be gay. Much like I didn't make a decision to be heterosexual or to like brunettes or whatever. As far as nature/nurture goes, nature seems to be winning as to why people are gay.

Debatable to say the least.

More interestingly, why did you edit out the comment about gay people?

And my answer is easy "Because he doesn't actually exist and your book is mostly nonsense"?

Why?/..ermm because i wanted to??..didnt see the relevance of it in all honesty.

And my answer is just as easy "because he does exist and your arguements against the lack of God is mostly nonsense too"

But neither do you have solid proof scientifically or non scientifically to prove that God doesnt exist and neither do i have the proof that God exists. So lets not go there or else we will be here all day and night:p....i know what io believe in and if you find that nonsense then fair enough...
 
more partners = more chance of std's
being unfaithful is usually against the rules of a marriage :p

People who are married still cheat plenty of times, again, being married or not being married has no correlation to whether someone will cheat or not.
 
It doesn't alter their chances whatsoever. But as we are talking about generalisations rather than specifics if everyone waited until marriage until they had sex then the number of STDs would drop significantly.

Or if everyone was monogamous.

Marriage =/= Monogamy and non cheating partners.
 
Debatable to say the least.

Really it isn't. The weight of evidence seems to suggest nature rather than nurture.

And my answer is just as easy "because he does exist and your arguements against the lack of God is mostly nonsense too"

How is that an answer to why God makes people gay?

But neither do you have solid proof scientifically or non scientifically to prove that God doesnt exist and neither do i have the proof that God exists. So lets not go there or else we will be here all day and night:p....i know what io believe in and if you find that nonsense then fair enough...

Indeed, hence I am agnostic.
 
How is that an answer to why God makes people gay?



Indeed, hence I am agnostic.

It isnt:p....well its my answer and im sticking to it lol.

Oh ok i had you down as an Atheist....so in other words your a fence sitter???
 
It isnt:p....well its my answer and im sticking to it lol.

Shame really, but there you go.

Oh ok i had you down as an Atheist....so in other words your a fence sitter???

Not at all. I have been presented with a question to which I do not know the answer. Therefore rather than guess I have answered "I do not know." I would say that there is more than enough evidence to say that the more fundamental views of Christianity, Islam and Judaism are not true but that does not mean I can honestly say that there is no God or Godlike being in, what is, a very big universe. Religion interests me so I have taken some small effort to learn about numerous religions, past and present and none really seem to offer anything I could take as "The Truth".
 
Top 10 Logical Fallacies Used By Religion

For those who don't know, A logical fallacy is a flawed pattern of reasoning. Something which the religious are professionals at.

In this post I'm going to list my favorite ten logical fallacies used by the religious in arguments. I'll also post their meaning and an example of what the fallacy may look like when used in an argument. I'm sure most of you free-thinkers will recognise many of these from past discussions with religious people.

#1. Argumentum ad ignorantium - Fallacy that something must be true because it has not been, Or can't be, proven false.
If you can't prove that god doesn't exist, That means he must exist.

#2. Argumentum ad misericordia - Appealing to pity.
Why are you so intent on destroying something that makes so many sick children happy!

#3. Argumentum ad nauseum - Fallacy that something is likely to be true the more often it is said.
God exists, How many times do i have to tell you?

#4. Argumentum ad novitatem - Fallacy that something is right because it's new.
Of course Islam is the true religion, Mohammad is the most recent prophet.

#5. Argumentum ad populum - Fallacy that something is correct based on the amount of people who believe it.
Look how many people believe in Jesus, They can't all be wrong.

#6. Bifurcation - Fallacy of presenting a situation as having only two answers.
Evolution is wrong, So that means creationism is right.

#7. Circular Logic - The premise that what you are trying to prove is evidence of it's self.
The bible is the word of god because it says it is, And it can't be wrong, because after all, It is the word of god.

#8. Cum hoc ergo propter hoc - Fallacy of asserting that events occurring simultaneously must be causally related.
With all these natural disasters happening how can you deny that god isn't punishing us?

#9. Plurium interrogationum - Fallacy of demanding a simplistic answer to a complex question.
If god didn't create the universe then explain what did.

#10. Slippery slope fallacy - Fallacy that one event will inevitably lead to harmful consequences.
If we let gays get married it will be the end of family values.

There are many more but these are my favorites and most commonly used logical fallacies in discussions with religious people.
 
Some seriously deluded god lovers on here, If I couldn't actually read it myself on here I'd think it was all a dream or more likely a nightmare, Walt Disney would be proud, lol :p:p:p:p

goody two shoes quotes from the bible & koran trying to prove one point or another but when an atheist posts the undesirable quotes from the same book it's not accepted with the usual blinkered answer.
Yes of course extremists pray & read their book just the same as the good guys, they will easily point out the permission to kill adulterers & non believers & therefore the justification their religion gives them to commit attrocities against others

Here's a thought - thinking of a major religion with an international leader only leaves the Queen or the Pope .

The Pope controls the lives of millions, he tells them they can't use contraceptives so millions of unwanted & starving children are born all over the 3rd world.
If the pope commanded all Catholics to drown themselves in the name of god then I have no doubt whatsoever that thousands would do it, so strong is their faith/fear of what would happen if they didn't obey
 
goody two shoes quotes from the bible & koran trying to prove one point or another but when an atheist posts the undesirable quotes from the same book it's not accepted with the usual blinkered answer.

If I distorted or mis-quoted something Dawkins said, or some scientific fact, I wouldn't expect anyone to accept it.

The difference is, when it comes to the Bible, it's not just atheists mis-using it, there are plenty of religious people who mis-use it too.

Being religious doesn't mean I have to believe the Pope is anything more than a figurehead at the top of a powerful organisation, claiming to be worshippers of God but in many cases being ignorant of what that means.
 
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Burden of proof lies equally on you.

You have zero evidence yet you state with certainty there is no god.
 
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