May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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Seems that this thread is still going and is still absolutely amazing!


Indeed, absolutely amazing really.

Have to say i commend Gaidin in trying to explain that things arent so black and white especially when it comes to religion....at least someone kind of understands the situation.
 
Well I wouldn't fight for this country against anyone, muslim or non-muslim.

War is still all about killing people. And killing people is something I would never do for any reason.

Not even to prevent them from killing or hurting others?
 
i dont care what you think


But you do. Otherwise you woudln't have spent the last month arguing.
But you are now running out of steam and resorting to "I don't care", "you don't understand my religion", "you should have an open mind to my beliefs" etc.

Shakeel, I think you should crawl off under a stone in whatever country suits your beliefs and stop trying to inflict your sixth century beliefs on a twenty first century country. You really want to drag us down to the level of every Islamic country?
God forbid!
 
But you do. Otherwise you woudln't have spent the last month arguing.
But you are now running out of steam and resorting to "I don't care", "you don't understand my religion", "you should have an open mind to my beliefs" etc.

Shakeel, I think you should crawl off under a stone in whatever country suits your beliefs and stop trying to inflict your sixth century beliefs on a twenty first century country. You really want to drag us down to the level of every Islamic country?
God forbid!

are you in the army slug? im fine in england thank you
 
are you in the army slug? im fine in england thank you

Of course you are, for now.
If the Muslims have it their way it'll be under Shariah law and it will waste away to nothing. Then the Muslims will move onto another country that gives them something for nothing. Rinse, wash, repeat.
 
Of course you are, for now.
If the Muslims have it their way it'll be under Shariah law and it will waste away to nothing. Then the Muslims will move onto another country that gives them something for nothing. Rinse, wash, repeat.

are you in the army slug?

EDIT. you not answering because i dont think you are in the army.

You slate me for not being able to fight, then why are you not on the front line

If you are in the army then i take back what ive said and you have my respect, for you are more brave than me
 
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are you in the army slug?

EDIT. you not answering because i dont think you are in the army.

You slate me for not being able to fight, then why are you not on the front line

If you are in the army then i take back what ive said and you have my respect, for you are more brave than me

I think that's a bit different.

I think the idea is that if WW3 happens and conscription is reintroduced, Slug would be there, ready to take on whoever the country dictates us to fight.

Not everyone wants to be in the army out of choice though when they don't need to be.
 
And this is relevant to my post in what way?
Because you state Islam is different than other religions in the way it pervades society as a whole. It isn't, all religions can be said to have done the same at one point or another. That is why it is relevent.



I think the US bible belt is one of the most unobtrusive versions of Christianity going. It's like COE with nothing better to do except dust the house.

You obviously have no experience of the Mid-West Christian Militancy then. making statements based on ignorance is what you accuse Muslims of doing, yet you are quilty of the same.



Are you intentionally being obtuse? I stated I am being targeted in MY OWN COUNTRY!

And I have said I do not share your rather unique experiences either here or abroad.


Now I think you are telling lies, there are 6 muslims at my company and 4 of them insist on time off to pray. And also the Muslims , to a man, are given extremely short notice time off whenever eide raises it's ugly head. I struggled to get 2 days off when my neice died!

I'm sorry to hear about your Neice. Accusing me of lying just because my experience is different from yours shows a tendancy to exagerate any percieved slight on your part.

Shakeel, I think you should crawl off under a stone in whatever country suits your beliefs and stop trying to inflict your sixth century beliefs on a twenty first century country. You really want to drag us down to the level of every Islamic country?
God forbid!

Shakeel has every right to refuse to fight, as a concientious objector he iis protected in that right. It also indicates that not all Muslims are blood-thirsty murdering scum-bags as you seem to want to portray them.

I find it amusing that you refuse to answer whether you are in the Armed Forces or not, or whether you have ever put your life on the line for anything.

It is also funny that you accuse Shakeel of 6th Century beliefs, when your own intolerant and racist ones have no place in the 21st Century either. It would seem you are both anachronistic by your definition.
 
Well I wouldn't fight for this country against anyone, muslim or non-muslim.

War is still all about killing people. And killing people is something I would never do for any reason.

That's a very black and white statement..?

So if were trying to prevent a terrorist attack, you knew if you didn't kill someone, they'd then carry on and nuke your entire town, you'd let it be nuked?

Whoah!

There's time for peace, but also, unfortunately, other times...
 
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So it could well be that Noah's ark has some basis in fact considering the region also holds Mount Ararat where the Ark was supposed to rest and there is in fact an archaelogical dig there currently.


As for Ararat, the bible doesn't actually ever specify where the Ark laid to rest only that is was somewhere in the ancient kingdom of Uratu, which is now Eastern Turkey.

your extremely good at contradicting yourself with just about every post :p

I mention Ararat as the resting place for the ark according to the bible & you jump to didmiss it .

i think you just love argueing & whatever anyone posts you have to try & prove them wrong. :rolleyes:

A believe the bible is pure fiction, a view held by atheists.

you are very obviously the complete opposite because you consistently try to defend it just like every Christian on the planet so therefore there is no way whatsoever that you are agnostic.

does your wife put up with your constant argueing or do you just bully her into submission ?


Am I insane ? I must be to keep replying to your bigoted nit picking posts :p
 
your extremely good at contradicting yourself with just about every post :p

I mention Ararat as the resting place for the ark according to the bible & you jump to didmiss it .

i think you just love argueing & whatever anyone posts you have to try & prove them wrong. :rolleyes:

A believe the bible is pure fiction, a view held by atheists.

you are very obviously the complete opposite because you consistently try to defend it just like every Christian on the planet so therefore there is no way whatsoever that you are agnostic.

does your wife put up with your constant argueing or do you just bully her into
submission ?


Am I insane ? I must be to keep replying to your bigoted nit picking posts :p

I think you need to get a grip mate. I'm not defending christianty per se, just pointing out your bigotry. I am not bigoted at all, I think you need to look up the definition of it.

As for the Ark, it is a commonly held belief it rested on Ararat, and in that context the first post was made. The second post was to highlight that you judge a book you haven't even read, and in that context there is no contradiction.

If you cannot defend your claims against what you say is 'nit picking' then don't make them. You can state you beliefs quite well without offending every other faith going if you try.

And remember, I wasn't defending any specific faith, only proving your claim that the bible proves there is no God to be erroneous.

I don't argue with my wife as she doesn't hold the same bigoted views you do and knows the difference between arguing and debate.
 
Seems that this thread is still going and is still absolutely amazing!

If there is one thing that is sure to divide people, cause arguments, lead to violence and oppression it's religion. Life would be a lot simpler if people kept their faith to themselves rather than forcing it down other peoples throats.
 
I think you need to get a grip mate. I'm not defending christianty per se, just pointing out your bigotry. I am not bigoted at all, I think you need to look up the definition of it.


And remember, I wasn't defending any specific faith, only proving your claim that the bible proves there is no God to be erroneous.

I don't argue with my wife as she doesn't hold the same bigoted views you do and knows the difference between arguing and debate.



We will agree to differ then & say no more :)

I would say goodbye but as it' an acronym for god be with you it wouldn't be appropriate for me
 
If there is one thing that is sure to divide people, cause arguments, lead to violence and oppression it's religion. Life would be a lot simpler if people kept their faith to themselves rather than forcing it down other peoples throats.

Then we would just find another excuse.. if there was no religion it wouldn't make any difference at all to be quite honest as the main crux of the issue is differences in cultures and the intolerance between them. "Religion" is just used as a convenient blanket label

As for forcing it down other peoples throats, i think you will find its the anti-religion crowd that shout the loudest nowadays ;)
 
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As for forcing it down other peoples throats, i think you will find its the anti-religion crowd that shout the loudest nowadays ;)

Keeping this thread at least partially on topic - Indeed! Just look at all those death threats levelled at South Park by non-religious folks...
 
I don't get it :confused:

You are comparing a insignificant number of instances from some nut jobs to everyday exposure?

That's debatable of course. A couple of nut jobs? Or so some degree a state of mind across huge numbers? Let's remember this even resulted in some countries cutting internet access - so it was hardly just a bunch of 'nutters' taking action.

The initial movement was set off by the fact people are havnig to adjust their behaviour just to appease religious individuals, who go out of their way to be offended. Add to this then that of course we've see violence even threatened, people had simply had enough, and decided in a peaceful way to make a complete mockery of the entire thing.

In short, how dare any religion try and push its beliefs onto other people, especially people of different cultures/beliefs!

This video posted by someone else earlier in the thread says it far better than I could hope to:-
 
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