May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’
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This.
Shameful.
Surely these people should be on the first plane out of Britain, I don't care where to.
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Not 'arf!
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Shameful.
Surely these people should be on the first plane out of Britain, I don't care where to.
So they don't agree with your views they should be deported, to erm...
So much for tolerance and not pushing your views ey
That is their remit, if they deem it unsuitable then it is well within their right to censor things as the please.
It is exactly the same as various things censored in this country (underage porn and various other not-so-savoury activities deemed unsuitable)
China censors anti-government messages, does that mean all Chinese around the world or even the majority are fully for government censorship?
In Germany it is illegal to display a swastika, to people whom this is of little significance it is an equally stupid law but i don't see you up in arms over that condemning all Germans to intolerance
The religious aspect is not why you appease them... it is because most people have enough decency not to go out of their way to deliberately annoy/insult others just because they don't believe the same thing.
And "you" (as a general reference) are proposing what exactly?
You are doing exactly that;
'Muhammad is a pedophile', despite the fact in many countries (especially in that era) it was not uncommon to marry young regardless of YOUR view on it others think there is nothing wrong with that.
The above post by SlugForAButt is another
the list could go on..
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Strange you use the phrase "up in arms", when the only individuals who can be considered "up in arms" in this matter are those folks having a ridiculous hissy fit about a cartoon...
And if we keep things in context, a cartoon has resulted in the likes of death threats and even internet access/borders being closed.
And why, because these individual - to use your phrase again - get "up in arms" about matters which really do not concern them. They expect other to comply to their beliefs and desires for no logical reason, and worse still resort to threats to achieve this.
If I want to spend the rest of life drawing cartoons mocking religious figures, how dare anyone threaten my life over this. It's a dangerous president when religion controls the will the will of its followers, but even more dangerous when it tries to do so with everyone else...
In short, Islam needs to grow up... And what better way of making a point than comically. Or should we threaten lives?
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I think that the tollerence shown by the mainstream of the UK is coming to an end due to probably what is a bunch of "bad apples".
I can only see attitudes becoming more strained especially as the UK's public spending is about to take a huge hit and people will point to immigrants as part of the problem.
I can only see attitudes becoming more strained especially as the UK's public spending is about to take a huge hit and people will point to immigrants as part of the problem.
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I don't use the phrase up in arms
If we keep things in context the whole situation was hyped by the media yes and the usual nutjobs did their posturing, it only escalated when governments (more specifically their leaders) got involved.
It then turned from a silly cartoon to political posturing between countries, it was the cause not the reason.
As for blocking internet access i have already covered this in my previous reply
No logical reason to you, the exact same thing happened at the returning soldiers parade where the fringe group had banners and thing calling them murderers. Just search this forum to see some of the replies.
What happened? there was violence and threats, in your words, 'no logical reason' other than they felt strongly about it
Again you are equating Islam as a whole to a minority group, the majority (who cared) did show their grievance in a non-violent way (you mention one yourself, blocking internet sites)
Just because the press didn't cover it doesn't mean it didn't happen...
I think some of you on here need to grow up and learn some tolerance to be quite frank, the world doesn't and never will revolve around you and your opinions.
The arrogance that everyone else should change to suit you is hilarious, there are some things those so called 'backward', countries do far better than here and there are others things that aren't if people were intelligent enough they would choose the best of both world rather than live in this ridiculous 'us' and 'them', mentality.
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instead of trying to close a thread apparently enjoyed by a great many why don't you select to unsubscribe from it.?
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What exactly do you think it is that muslim nations do better than western nations? Genuinely interested. And do you feel that the benefits they gain are worth the disadvantages living under Islamic rule tends to bring?
Also surely it is the Islamic fundamentalists trying to get us to change to suit them? There is no prohibition in our society against drawing Mohammed after all.
I don't use the phrase up in arms
Ummm:-
Looks, like you, using that phrase to me?
You're logic is upside down... I don't expect anyone to change behaviour, view or opinion, especially over something as silly as religion. But unfortunaly this is what Islam expects? It throws a hissy fit over cartoons? It expects other cultures/countries to change their behaviour, and infact, by threats (from militants or not), achieves this. Seems too many people have got fed up of having to walk on egg shells for Islam, and have had enough.
The ONLY reason this entire thing has kicked off is because Islam's inability to sit back and act like an adult, instead of throwing temper tantrums at seemingly any questioning of its faith, be serious or mocking.
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I didn't ask to close the thread - I merely sugested that it was miles off a topic that I would be interested in. That those that wanted to have a largely pointless religous argument could go somewhere else and leave the equally meaningless laughter in here.
/edit Actually sorry I just realised that apparently I can try to close a thread. Do you think if I concentrate really really hard I could become a moderator for a moment?
/edit Actually sorry I just realised that apparently I can try to close a thread. Do you think if I concentrate really really hard I could become a moderator for a moment?
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My mistake, i skim read what i wrote and missed it twice ><
Again you throw around 'Islam' as if you are referring to one body of people which is making a mockery of your entire post, i have pointed this out several times yet you seem to be unable to grasp this concept.
If you actually looked at this in a detached and logical manner you would have noted that MOST people registered their disapproval and it was left at that. Or is this what you have a problem with?
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So your interested in laughing at Muslims but can't contribute anything worthwhile it seems ?
Why not start a 'lets laugh at Muslims' thread but stipulate that religion based posts are not permitted & we will not post in your thread
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Why don't you become part of the solution instead of part of the problem and post a cartoon yourself?
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Hello mr Gaidin , we meet again
well of course you can't, my post was sarcastic & was aimed at Beren & his apparent attempt to get mods to close this thread, why ? do you agree with Beren ?
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By Islam I'm grouping the (intolerant) culture/religion/mindset that seems behind this issue. It seemed as good a word/phrase as any.
How have I not been detached and logical? How have I not registered my disapproval, and been more than willing to explain it? Why are you still questioning/probing people who have clearly aired their views? Can I remind you that you're the one why came and poked my cage?
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