May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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How many of you disagree that man evolved from Ape like creatures ?
If you accept that it's true then where in your holy books does it mention this ? Well of course it doesn't & we all know the reason for that don't we?

If you deny evolution then your evading the truth of your own body which still carries proof of evolution in many ways including the now lost ability to swivel our ears in all directions without moving our head, all the muscles are still there but we have lost the ability to use them.

Our forebears were covered in hair from head to foot & yet modern man is not even though the means to raise fur when threatened or afraid is still with us & actually works !
commonly called 'Goosebumps' there is a small bump at the base of every hair folicle which replicates what you see in many animals when agitated & 'raise their hackles'.

There are lots more but I guess you will deny they are proof of anyhing as it's not written in your books & therefore catagorically cannot be true.

This is what really bugs me with religious folks who hang their every belief in god on what was once written down thousands of years ago & enter every arguement by quoting phrases as if that's all they need to do to prove without doubt that it's the very word of god himself.

Faith in God doesn't necessarily mean a rejection of science, or Evolution as it stands.
 
How many of you disagree that man evolved from Ape like creatures ?
If you accept that it's true then where in your holy books does it mention this ? Well of course it doesn't & we all know the reason for that don't we?

If you deny evolution then your evading the truth of your own body which still carries proof of evolution in many ways including the now lost ability to swivel our ears in all directions without moving our head, all the muscles are still there but we have lost the ability to use them.

Our forebears were covered in hair from head to foot & yet modern man is not even though the means to raise fur when threatened or afraid is still with us & actually works !
commonly called 'Goosebumps' there is a small bump at the base of every hair folicle which replicates what you see in many animals when agitated & 'raise their hackles'

There are lots more but I guess you will deny they are proof of anyhing as it's not written in your books & therefore catagorically cannot be true.

This is what really bugs me with religious folks who hang their every belief in god on what was once written down thousands of years ago & enter every arguement by quoting phrases as if that's all they need to do to prove without doubt that it's the very word of god himself.


Lol. Goosebumps are an involuntary reflex to cold and part of our fight/flight response. It is common to all mammals with fur or not. It is not vestigial like the our appendix or unused muscles in our ear.

Maybe you can explain the missing link between us and our alleged ancestors as well?

Also maybe you can explain why believing in Evolutionary theory (which I do) precludes believing in a God (which incidently I don't.)
 
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if that is your train of thought then why bother to have kids......

It isn't my train of thought, I am agnostic. However it does seem to be a logical process. By allowing your child to live you are risking their immortal souls. Surely their immortal soul is much more important than a few fleeting years on earth?

would it not be better to just educate them about religion ?

I am educated about religion (possibly more so than many of the religious who are educated about one religion). Hasn't stopped me straying. According to the two main faiths in the UK I am pretty much bound for hell. Why would a god fearing parent take that chance? :)
 
Lol. Goosebumps are an involuntary reflex to cold and part of our fight/flight response. It is common to all mammals with fur or not. It is not vestigial like the our appendix or unused muscles in our ear.

That isn't incompatible with what he said.

Maybe you can explain the missing link between us and our alleged ancestors as well?

Fossils are rare and not every species will have been fossilised. So finding all the connections will be unlikely. Come on, this is low grade stuff, you can do better than that!

Also maybe you can explain why believing in Evolutionary theory (which I do) precludes believing in a God (which incidently I don't.)

It precludes you from believing in a literal interpretation of the Bible but it is not incompatible with religion in general.
 
a God fearing parent would murder his own child ?
clearly he doesn't fear God enough :p

If they accepted an eternity in hell for the guaranteed eternity in heaven for their child?

living in the jungle you dont kill your kid incase he gets ate by the animals....you teach him survival skills.

Yes, but that is real world stuff. However when you consider how few years you actually spend on earth with eternity in heaven to follow then why take that chance?
 
If they accepted an eternity in hell for the guaranteed eternity in heaven for their child?

im guessing with the amount of parents killing their children so they dont go to hell....its harder done than said :p


probably only an extreme few would be capable of doing such an act (if any).


but then you could ask the question why would a parent even have a child and condemn himself to hell if thats what he believed.
 
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im guessing with the amount of parents killing their children so they dont go to hell....its harder done than said :p

Obviously they just don't have enough faith then!

probably only an extreme few would be capable of doing such an act (if any).

It isn't that far off refusing medical treatment for your child on religious grounds, or dare I say it, honour killings.
 
That isn't incompatible with what he said.



Fossils are rare and not every species will have been fossilised. So finding all the connections will be unlikely. Come on, this is low grade stuff, you can do better than that!

Probably, but I'm knee deep in cabling and harddrives at the moment, so slightly distracted. Its a valid point though, and God forbid I mention intelligent design..:p



It precludes you from believing in a literal interpretation of the Bible but it is not incompatible with religion in general.

The biggest flaw in religion is the assertion that We cannot fully comprehend God, so if we cannot, the literal word that Mohammed wrote down would be skewed somewhat by his inherent incapability to fully comprehend those words in their entirety originally.

Now while this is a flaw in the books themselves, it also moots many argments based on the alleged literal meaning.
 
Probably, but I'm knee deep in cabling and harddrives at the moment, so slightly distracted. Its a valid point though, and God forbid I mention intelligent design..:p

You can mention it, however any further posts you make that even mention science will be null and void. :)

The biggest flaw in religion is the assertion that We cannot fully comprehend God, so if we cannot, the literal word that Mohammed wrote down would be skewed somewhat by his inherent incapability to fully comprehend those words in their entirety originally.

Now while this is a flaw in the books themselves, it also moots many argments based on the alleged literal meaning.

He obviously ain't that great a God if he can't get across the concepts he needs in clear language is all I can say. If only he had a decent proof reader before he started dictating stuff to Mo, things would have been much, much better. Possibly a decent indexer too...
 
You can mention it, however any further posts you make that even mention science will be null and void. :)



He obviously ain't that great a God if he can't get across the concepts he needs in clear language is all I can say. If only he had a decent proof reader before he started dictating stuff to Mo, things would have been much, much better. Possibly a decent indexer too...

Guys look at christian theology aswell. If you delve deep in christian books you will soon find yourself getting confused by so many different absurd concepts aswell. At least with Quran there is standard text in arabic which can be translated in different languages. In the case of bible firstly the original bible has been lost which I am sure would have been in Aramaic and now you mainly have different versions of bible in english language written by different authors with different interpretation. So you end up asking yourself which bible to follow.
 
Lol. Goosebumps are an involuntary reflex to cold and part of our fight/flight response. It is common to all mammals with fur or not. It is not vestigial like the our appendix or unused muscles in our ear.

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Even bigger lol, it's still the result of evolution, as usual your the quickest poster in this thread to jump down everyones throat airing your knowledge or in- this case total lack of it :rolleyes:

Our ancestors were warmer when they fluffed up their hair. Again, this is easily observable in modern-day birds and mammals. Also, again, it's easily explainable by evolution, but not by creation. As one scientist put it, 'Goosebumps were obviously 'created' to erect and 'fluff up' the hair or fur on a hairy or furry mammal ancestor, thereby improving its insulation value against the cold. Since most of us nowadays have so little body hair as to render it useless for insulation purposes, goosebumps are another vestigial reaction whose tool (fur) is no longer with us.'


But of course you know different as usual
 
It precludes you from believing in a literal interpretation of the Bible but it is not incompatible with religion in general.

I think that's the key thing here, many people seem to think

Christians + literal meaning of bible = beliefs of all those who accept God
 
i don't see the link.

Allowing your child to die because of your relgious beliefs that treatment is wrong? You really can't see the link? Putting the spiritual wellbeing of the child above their physical wellbeing?

Guys look at christian theology aswell. If you delve deep in christian books you will soon find yourself getting confused by so many different absurd concepts aswell. At least with Quran there is standard text in arabic which can be translated in different languages. In the case of bible firstly the original bible has been lost which I am sure would have been in Aramaic and now you mainly have different versions of bible in english language written by different authors with different interpretation. So you end up asking yourself which bible to follow.

I agree entirely. The Bible is just as flawed as far as message goes as the Koran. Proof reader, editor and indexer required. Same God, same problems. You would think an omnipotent God would be able to do something as simple as write a book in a clear and concise way wouldn't you?
 
Even bigger lol, it's still the result of evolution, as usual your the quickest poster in this thread to jump down everyones throat airing your knowledge or in- this case total lack of it :rolleyes:

Our ancestors were warmer when they fluffed up their hair. Again, this is easily observable in modern-day birds and mammals. Also, again, it's easily explainable by evolution, but not by creation. As one scientist put it, 'Goosebumps were obviously 'created' to erect and 'fluff up' the hair or fur on a hairy or furry mammal ancestor, thereby improving its insulation value against the cold. Since most of us nowadays have so little body hair as to render it useless for insulation purposes, goosebumps are another vestigial reaction whose tool (fur) is no longer with us.'


But of course you know different as usual


You'll be suprised just how important your body hair is in regulating your body temperature. You didn't answer the question however...
 
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the bible has been changed to suit the desires of man

Exactly people seem to forget conveniently that the Bible has been changed over time ie you have the Old Testament then newer version the New Testament.

The Quran on the other hand has not changed one single bit, not a word or a verse....it still remains the same as it does 1400 yrs ago.
 
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