May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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NeilFawcett said:
If you're unable to form a point or argument you can explain, please don't (repeatedly) resort to childing personal jibes instead. Now go away, and think. Come back when you can discuss things logically or reasonably maybe...
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Roffles seriously roffles...i have discussed things logically and reasonably...i apologise if telling you to relax your backside and stop getting so melodramatic has offended you.


eatcustard said:
...It's funny how our drawings offends you but our benefits don't!!!...
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:confused:...if that was directed at me then i cant recall ever saying something like that:confused:
 
Spawn said:
Roffles seriously roffles...i have discussed things logically and reasonably...i apologise if telling you to relax your backside and stop getting so melodramatic has offended you.
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Lol yet they think cartoons of our prophet won't offend us. Just lol.
 
Vita said:
EDIT: I think Pakistan have done a crazy call on blocking the sites in question, however, I've think they've done the people of Pakistan a favour. Why? Because then they don't have to see the badly drawn stupid cartoons or participate in this propaganda lol.
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Not only that it will also stop people from getting all worked up into a frenzy then start calling for the death of westerners...imo a good call.
 
Spawn said:
My point exactly.
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cool, so we're on the same page now, you are just fortunate to have developed the skill of not worrying about things you have no control over further than I have.

However I'm not so with you on:

Spawn said:
yes and doing that is really going to stop the extremists/terrorists from setting off more bombs eh??.. i mean by all go ahead and annoy them even more...if more people are killed or more terrorist attacks take place because of this then no sympathy from me...you reap what you sow.
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I think you've got a point in that I am also concerned that people will be hurt or killed as a result of this, but the responsibility will lie SOLELY on the shoulders of those who hurt or kill people because they don't like something they drew, but it is a concern.

Spawn said:
I liken this sort of behaviour to the type where you prod a dangerous animal ie a lion...keep poking it more and more and it will bite back at some point.
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Couple of problems with this - first of all, are you likening them to animals? Because I think it is generally accepted that a higher standard of personal responsibility applies to humans - i.e. you go and **** off a tiger and it eats you, I'd say it was your fault. If you go and insult a human and they eat you (or just kill lol), I'd say it was their fault for not being able to live a society where free speech is one the most important rights we have.

Second problem is that prodding a tiger is physically imposing on it - if I was to come up to you and start poking you with a stick, I'd think you were reasonably entitled to strike back, maybe after requesting I desist and if I continue. However if I come up to you and show you a drawing I did, that happens to offend you, I think you have absolutely no right to do anything to me as a result, other than express your view, and as long as that view isn't inciting someone else to do physical harm to me.


Spawn said:
And i dont see anyone as of yet being killed for making these utterly ridiculous drawings...do you have any links/proof that people as you put it ' are losing their lives over these drawings'.

Like i said relax your batty and stop getting so melodramatic...your worse than a woman lol."
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The thing is, it has happened - people have been killed as a result of drawing mohammed
 
DreadNiK said:
The thing is, it has happened - people have been killed as a result of drawing mohammed
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Yes they have. But people have also been killed in war's which are pointless, we're talking innocent people, this includes children who are barley 6 months old.

It's a norm now to flip out and kill. When something means a lot to someone they will do all they can to stop the other person/people from doing it again.

Just how the world works I'm afraid.
 
Shakeel said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10136576.stm

She apologised.

US cartoonist apologises over Facebook Muhammad row

Molly Norris said her satirical cartoon was "hijacked" and that the campaign was "offensive to Muslims".


Now its got out of hand. People arnt drawing pics becuase of freedom of speech, they just doing it to offend muslims
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LOL after all the damage has been done, she now feels the need to apologise??....what an utter muppet she is.

And of course people have done it purposely to offend muslims....anyone thinking it was done for freedom of speech needs their heads checked....
 
Vita said:
Yes they have. But people have also been killed in war's which are pointless, we're talking innocent people, this includes children who are barley 6 months old.

It's a norm now to flip out and kill. When something means a lot to someone they will do all they can to stop the other person/people from doing it again.

Just how the world works I'm afraid.
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well you are clearly a waste of effort...
 
Vita said:
I disagree with that. Ofcourse Muslims are going to get offended of people drawing their prophet. Ok it's a drawing I hear you say, however, Muslims do love their prophet very much. That's the whole reason, they dislike people mocking anything to-do with Islam. By dislike I mean the majority of people in the middle east, asia, and Europe even.

They just don't like the pee taken out of Islam. That's the bottom line.

EDIT: I think Pakistan have done a crazy call on blocking the sites in question, however, I've think they've done the people of Pakistan a favour. Why? Because then they don't have to see the badly drawn stupid cartoons or participate in this propaganda lol.
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DreadNiK said:
not really, they have the right to be offended...
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Fair enough, I understand. However, when you get people wanting to kill everyone who draws a bloody picture, then it's downright ridiculous and incredibly petty.
 
Spawn said:
And of course people have done it purposely to offend muslims....anyone thinking it was done for freedom of speech needs their heads checked....
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actually those two things aren't mutually exclusive - the point is muslims objected violently to drawings of the prophet (right to free expression in this form) and so now we are trying to do it to offend them to make the point that freedom of expression includes freedom to deliberately offend.
 
DreadNiK said:
well you are clearly a waste of effort...
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Not really, open your eyes. Yes in other peoples eyes it's daft for killing someone for drawing a cartoon. But when the cartoon is of a Muslim prophet, then yup they'll be pee'd enough to kill whoever drew it.

And it's not like it should have been drawn, what did Muslims do to deserve that. Yes, now you will say but cartoons of, Budda, Jesus, Moses, have been drawn, but you don't see the Budda People (Monks?), Christians, Jew's demanding killings and all sorts. Fair point.

But if PEOPLE know, MUSLIMS, will get ANGRY, why do it? Just to see the reactions then bad name them because they want to behead everyone?

Yet people have been killed in the Iraq/Afghanistan/Palestine, people have begged for it to stop, but nope. Don't see nothing being done about that.
 
DreadNiK said:
actually those two things aren't mutually exclusive - the point is muslims objected violently to drawings of the prophet (right to free expression in this form) and so now we are trying to do it to offend them to make the point that freedom of expression includes freedom to deliberately offend.
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why would you want to offend somebody?????? this is crazy talk
 
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